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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 628239 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200408 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : gmn.vortac |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 26000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc tower : atl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Beechcraft Twin Turboprop Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 5 controller time certified in position1 : 2 controller time certified in position2 : 6 |
| ASRS Report | 628239 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was working R-27 (area B) with moderate traffic. I had an aircraft #1 from pmd-mry at FL260. An air carrier Y checked on climbing to FL230. I had climbed to air carrier Y to FL310 to get above aircraft #1. I made a call to another aircraft then checked back on the air carrier Y and aircraft #1. I expedited the air carrier Y through FL270 to maintain FL310. Air carrier Y said he was doing 2000 FPM if that was enough. With that climb rate and distance from aircraft #1, it was sufficient to get above. When I realized it was not going to work I turned air carrier Y 30 degrees right to turn behind the aircraft #1 and keep separation. At that time it was too late. I asked for a report out of FL270 and separation was lost.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZLA CTLR EXPERIENCED OPERROR AT FL260 WHEN CLBING ACFT ABOVE CRUISE ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING R-27 (AREA B) WITH MODERATE TFC. I HAD AN ACFT #1 FROM PMD-MRY AT FL260. AN ACR Y CHKED ON CLBING TO FL230. I HAD CLBED TO ACR Y TO FL310 TO GET ABOVE ACFT #1. I MADE A CALL TO ANOTHER ACFT THEN CHKED BACK ON THE ACR Y AND ACFT #1. I EXPEDITED THE ACR Y THROUGH FL270 TO MAINTAIN FL310. ACR Y SAID HE WAS DOING 2000 FPM IF THAT WAS ENOUGH. WITH THAT CLB RATE AND DISTANCE FROM ACFT #1, IT WAS SUFFICIENT TO GET ABOVE. WHEN I REALIZED IT WAS NOT GOING TO WORK I TURNED ACR Y 30 DEGS R TO TURN BEHIND THE ACFT #1 AND KEEP SEPARATION. AT THAT TIME IT WAS TOO LATE. I ASKED FOR A RPT OUT OF FL270 AND SEPARATION WAS LOST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.