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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 627619 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200408 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ptk.airport |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Bonanza 35 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ptk.tower |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 55 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 2200 |
| ASRS Report | 627619 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
There was a big event at pontiac, mi (ptk). From the time I called in to approach control, the controllers were overwhelmed with numbers of aircraft performance variations (C172's, B26, A10, etc), low approachs, movements on the ground, and aircraft (including me) crossing 2 active, busy runways (parallel runways 28/10). After landing runway 28R, I was cleared by ground to cross runway 28R and hold short of runway 28L. A few mins later I was told to cross runway 28L. After completely crossing the hold line the controller quickly said, 'aircraft X stop!' there was a cessna on final but it looked ok to me. Anyway, I stopped immediately at the controller's command. After the cessna landed and slowed I was cleared across runway 28L. When I was taxiing back for departure about 1/2 hour later I was told to hold abeam a helicopter, which I did. The controller then cleared me to the end of runway 28L. At this time a cessna 172 was taxiing across the parallel taxiway which I was on. Since I saw him coming I didn't move until the cessna was clear. The controller then added, 'give way to the crossing cessna', which I had already done by standing still. We were no closer than 50 ft but I'm glad I didn't start moving when cleared to do so. I don't envy controllers in these unusually busy sits. Nobody was close to being hurt, but it was by definition: 1) a runway incursion, 2) a late 'give way to' command.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE TAXIING IN AFTER LNDG AT PTK, A B35 PLT CLAIMS A RWY INCURSION OCCURRED AND LATER WHILE TAXIING TO THE RWY HE BELIEVED A TXWY INCURSION HAPPENED.
Narrative: THERE WAS A BIG EVENT AT PONTIAC, MI (PTK). FROM THE TIME I CALLED IN TO APCH CTL, THE CTLRS WERE OVERWHELMED WITH NUMBERS OF ACFT PERFORMANCE VARIATIONS (C172'S, B26, A10, ETC), LOW APCHS, MOVEMENTS ON THE GND, AND ACFT (INCLUDING ME) XING 2 ACTIVE, BUSY RWYS (PARALLEL RWYS 28/10). AFTER LNDG RWY 28R, I WAS CLRED BY GND TO CROSS RWY 28R AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 28L. A FEW MINS LATER I WAS TOLD TO CROSS RWY 28L. AFTER COMPLETELY XING THE HOLD LINE THE CTLR QUICKLY SAID, 'ACFT X STOP!' THERE WAS A CESSNA ON FINAL BUT IT LOOKED OK TO ME. ANYWAY, I STOPPED IMMEDIATELY AT THE CTLR'S COMMAND. AFTER THE CESSNA LANDED AND SLOWED I WAS CLRED ACROSS RWY 28L. WHEN I WAS TAXIING BACK FOR DEP ABOUT 1/2 HR LATER I WAS TOLD TO HOLD ABEAM A HELI, WHICH I DID. THE CTLR THEN CLRED ME TO THE END OF RWY 28L. AT THIS TIME A CESSNA 172 WAS TAXIING ACROSS THE PARALLEL TXWY WHICH I WAS ON. SINCE I SAW HIM COMING I DIDN'T MOVE UNTIL THE CESSNA WAS CLR. THE CTLR THEN ADDED, 'GIVE WAY TO THE XING CESSNA', WHICH I HAD ALREADY DONE BY STANDING STILL. WE WERE NO CLOSER THAN 50 FT BUT I'M GLAD I DIDN'T START MOVING WHEN CLRED TO DO SO. I DON'T ENVY CTLRS IN THESE UNUSUALLY BUSY SITS. NOBODY WAS CLOSE TO BEING HURT, BUT IT WAS BY DEFINITION: 1) A RWY INCURSION, 2) A LATE 'GIVE WAY TO' COMMAND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.