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B767-300 crew questioned a dangerous goods manifest that they got in operations. No one seemed to know what they were.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 615121 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200404 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lszh.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 615121 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company FAA |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
We had a dangerous goods manifest for 24 consumer commodities in the forward cargo pit. In operations, I asked the agent what was in the packages. She said she thought there were perfumes, etc, but she wasn't sure. I asked if anyone knew what was in the packages. She did not know, but she made some phone calls and could not get an answer. She then had the head security guy meet us at the airplane. He told us the packages arrived already packed and ready to load. I did not ask if the packages were x-rayed. I assume they are, but not sure. I would like to know what the exact procedure is for packages of this type. It is an uncomfortable feeling having packages on the aircraft that no one knows what's in them. The security guy said all swiss procedures are followed for this type of package. Us, as pilots, know very little about the procedures and layers of defense that go into verifying what is in our cargo. I know some items may be classified, but I would like to know as much as I can about this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767-300 CREW QUESTIONED A DANGEROUS GOODS MANIFEST THAT THEY GOT IN OPS. NO ONE SEEMED TO KNOW WHAT THEY WERE.
Narrative: WE HAD A DANGEROUS GOODS MANIFEST FOR 24 CONSUMER COMMODITIES IN THE FORWARD CARGO PIT. IN OPS, I ASKED THE AGENT WHAT WAS IN THE PACKAGES. SHE SAID SHE THOUGHT THERE WERE PERFUMES, ETC, BUT SHE WASN'T SURE. I ASKED IF ANYONE KNEW WHAT WAS IN THE PACKAGES. SHE DID NOT KNOW, BUT SHE MADE SOME PHONE CALLS AND COULD NOT GET AN ANSWER. SHE THEN HAD THE HEAD SECURITY GUY MEET US AT THE AIRPLANE. HE TOLD US THE PACKAGES ARRIVED ALREADY PACKED AND READY TO LOAD. I DID NOT ASK IF THE PACKAGES WERE X-RAYED. I ASSUME THEY ARE, BUT NOT SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE EXACT PROC IS FOR PACKAGES OF THIS TYPE. IT IS AN UNCOMFORTABLE FEELING HAVING PACKAGES ON THE ACFT THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT'S IN THEM. THE SECURITY GUY SAID ALL SWISS PROCS ARE FOLLOWED FOR THIS TYPE OF PACKAGE. US, AS PLTS, KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE PROCS AND LAYERS OF DEFENSE THAT GO INTO VERIFYING WHAT IS IN OUR CARGO. I KNOW SOME ITEMS MAY BE CLASSIFIED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AS MUCH AS I CAN ABOUT THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.