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A PA28 CFI, demonstrating a slip to landing at a class C airport, was told by the local controller to make a go around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 608018 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200402 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2315 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 608018 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Controller made mistake by initially keeping us high, then asking us to expedite a touch and go. It was obvious that we were too high and I took the opportunity to teach my student a slip. While slipping the controller said, 'there is not enough runway available, go around!' by the time I conveyed the message to my student, the controller was again yelling, 'go around!' he said a 'deviation' had occurred. There were only 2 aircraft in his airspace at that time. Controllers need to understand and be patient with CFI's because we are trying to train our students for these 'real life' occurrences.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA28 CFI, DEMONSTRATING A SLIP TO LNDG AT A CLASS C ARPT, WAS TOLD BY THE LCL CTLR TO MAKE A GAR.
Narrative: CTLR MADE MISTAKE BY INITIALLY KEEPING US HIGH, THEN ASKING US TO EXPEDITE A TOUCH AND GO. IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT WE WERE TOO HIGH AND I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH MY STUDENT A SLIP. WHILE SLIPPING THE CTLR SAID, 'THERE IS NOT ENOUGH RWY AVAILABLE, GO AROUND!' BY THE TIME I CONVEYED THE MESSAGE TO MY STUDENT, THE CTLR WAS AGAIN YELLING, 'GO AROUND!' HE SAID A 'DEV' HAD OCCURRED. THERE WERE ONLY 2 ACFT IN HIS AIRSPACE AT THAT TIME. CTLRS NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND BE PATIENT WITH CFI'S BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO TRAIN OUR STUDENTS FOR THESE 'REAL LIFE' OCCURRENCES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.