![]() |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 598773 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200311 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : dca.vor |
| State Reference | DC |
| Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : bucko |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 598773 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Arriving into dca on the bucko arrival, we had poor radio reception from potomac approach and heard 'after aml direct dca.' at 9 DME 270 degree radial dca I noticed we had passed the shaki intersection 14 DME from dca where a turn to 180 degrees is required if on the bucko arrival. I had the first officer ask potomac approach if they wanted us to turn for a vector downwind for runway 1 at dca. The controller was busy. We asked 3 times with no reply. I proceeded to turn south as all arrs were doing rather than fly over the airport and toward the restr areas. Potomac approach then answered our query for a heading and said they saw that I had turned downwind and that normally potomac turns aircraft downwind at the dca/270 degree radial/7 DME position. I turned too soon without an ATC clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 MAKES AN EARLY TURN DURING VISUAL APCH TO DCA.
Narrative: ARRIVING INTO DCA ON THE BUCKO ARR, WE HAD POOR RADIO RECEPTION FROM POTOMAC APCH AND HEARD 'AFTER AML DIRECT DCA.' AT 9 DME 270 DEG RADIAL DCA I NOTICED WE HAD PASSED THE SHAKI INTXN 14 DME FROM DCA WHERE A TURN TO 180 DEGS IS REQUIRED IF ON THE BUCKO ARR. I HAD THE FO ASK POTOMAC APCH IF THEY WANTED US TO TURN FOR A VECTOR DOWNWIND FOR RWY 1 AT DCA. THE CTLR WAS BUSY. WE ASKED 3 TIMES WITH NO REPLY. I PROCEEDED TO TURN S AS ALL ARRS WERE DOING RATHER THAN FLY OVER THE ARPT AND TOWARD THE RESTR AREAS. POTOMAC APCH THEN ANSWERED OUR QUERY FOR A HEADING AND SAID THEY SAW THAT I HAD TURNED DOWNWIND AND THAT NORMALLY POTOMAC TURNS ACFT DOWNWIND AT THE DCA/270 DEG RADIAL/7 DME POS. I TURNED TOO SOON WITHOUT AN ATC CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.