BE36 student and instructor are advised by phl approach of ny ADIZ violation.

Attributes
ACN	579075
Time
Date	200304
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : rbv.vortac
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	msl single value : 3500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : phl.tracon
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Bonanza 36
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 39 flight time total : 803 flight time type : 201
ASRS Report	579075
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I am an IFR student. I was under the hood and partial panel. The instructor was watching the GPS and giving me vectors. The GPS shows no ADIZ ring. He said he made an embarrassing mistake believing the outer ring around the ny bravo was the ADIZ ring. We have been flying this area for months. As sorry as both of us are we are, totally embarrassed by our mistake. After filing with phl approach for a practice approach, they informed us that we copy phone number to call. We will practice maneuvers in another location.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: BE36 STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR ARE ADVISED BY PHL APCH OF NY ADIZ VIOLATION.

Narrative: I AM AN IFR STUDENT. I WAS UNDER THE HOOD AND PARTIAL PANEL. THE INSTRUCTOR WAS WATCHING THE GPS AND GIVING ME VECTORS. THE GPS SHOWS NO ADIZ RING. HE SAID HE MADE AN EMBARRASSING MISTAKE BELIEVING THE OUTER RING AROUND THE NY BRAVO WAS THE ADIZ RING. WE HAVE BEEN FLYING THIS AREA FOR MONTHS. AS SORRY AS BOTH OF US ARE WE ARE, TOTALLY EMBARRASSED BY OUR MISTAKE. AFTER FILING WITH PHL APCH FOR A PRACTICE APCH, THEY INFORMED US THAT WE COPY PHONE NUMBER TO CALL. WE WILL PRACTICE MANEUVERS IN ANOTHER LOCATION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.