A BE40 crew, taxiing for takeoff at det, taxied past the hold short line of their assigned runway.

Attributes
ACN	562938
Time
Date	200210
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : det.airport
State Reference	MI
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	Marginal
Light	Dawn
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Beechjet 400
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 1800
ASRS Report	562938
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Taxiing from the FBO ramp to runway 33, we were completing checklist items promptly due to the short taxi. As we approached the 'runway 33 approach' red sign, I questioned the first officer if that is where they wanted us to hold, as it seemed quite a good distance from the runway. He responded that we should keep going as the taxiway did continue and he believed the line to be the 'ILS hold.' just as we were crossing the line, I realized that it was in fact the runway hold short line. I stopped the aircraft and the tower controller noticed our location and verified that we were across the hold line. The fact that it was dark and the taxiway continues straight ahead and over the overrun of runway 33, made the situation confusing as there are no white runway lights that intersect the taxiway lights. This would be a great place to have runway guard lights or stop bars in place.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A BE40 CREW, TAXIING FOR TKOF AT DET, TAXIED PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE OF THEIR ASSIGNED RWY.

Narrative: TAXIING FROM THE FBO RAMP TO RWY 33, WE WERE COMPLETING CHKLIST ITEMS PROMPTLY DUE TO THE SHORT TAXI. AS WE APCHED THE 'RWY 33 APCH' RED SIGN, I QUESTIONED THE FO IF THAT IS WHERE THEY WANTED US TO HOLD, AS IT SEEMED QUITE A GOOD DISTANCE FROM THE RWY. HE RESPONDED THAT WE SHOULD KEEP GOING AS THE TXWY DID CONTINUE AND HE BELIEVED THE LINE TO BE THE 'ILS HOLD.' JUST AS WE WERE XING THE LINE, I REALIZED THAT IT WAS IN FACT THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE. I STOPPED THE ACFT AND THE TWR CTLR NOTICED OUR LOCATION AND VERIFIED THAT WE WERE ACROSS THE HOLD LINE. THE FACT THAT IT WAS DARK AND THE TXWY CONTINUES STRAIGHT AHEAD AND OVER THE OVERRUN OF RWY 33, MADE THE SIT CONFUSING AS THERE ARE NO WHITE RWY LIGHTS THAT INTERSECT THE TXWY LIGHTS. THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE RWY GUARD LIGHTS OR STOP BARS IN PLACE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.