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A missed crossing restr on the korry 1 arrival to lga, ny prompts a suggestion for chart improvement from an air carrier pilot.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 553613 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200207 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : korry |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : korry |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 553613 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Chart | star : end.korry 1 |
Narrative:
Arriving into lga on the korry 1 arrival, we were assigned to fly the published routing and descend via the procedure. Unfortunately, we missed the final altitude of 10000 ft and crossed korry at 11000 ft. New york gave us a vector and mentioned, 'for future reference, cross korry at 10000 ft.' we were then handed off to another frequency and nothing more was said. We regret missing the altitude restr. I do, however, feel that the korry 1 is a hard to read arrival due to the clutter along the black line. I would recommend changing 2 things to make it easier to read: 1) place all of the holding speed references away from the black line in order to see the altitude restrs better. 2) place the korry 10000 ft restr on the opposite side of the black line since it's on the right and right of the fold in the paper if the page bends as it will normally do if not completely flat it will become very hard to pick up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A MISSED XING RESTR ON THE KORRY 1 ARR TO LGA, NY PROMPTS A SUGGESTION FOR CHART IMPROVEMENT FROM AN ACR PLT.
Narrative: ARRIVING INTO LGA ON THE KORRY 1 ARR, WE WERE ASSIGNED TO FLY THE PUBLISHED ROUTING AND DSND VIA THE PROC. UNFORTUNATELY, WE MISSED THE FINAL ALT OF 10000 FT AND CROSSED KORRY AT 11000 FT. NEW YORK GAVE US A VECTOR AND MENTIONED, 'FOR FUTURE REF, CROSS KORRY AT 10000 FT.' WE WERE THEN HANDED OFF TO ANOTHER FREQ AND NOTHING MORE WAS SAID. WE REGRET MISSING THE ALT RESTR. I DO, HOWEVER, FEEL THAT THE KORRY 1 IS A HARD TO READ ARR DUE TO THE CLUTTER ALONG THE BLACK LINE. I WOULD RECOMMEND CHANGING 2 THINGS TO MAKE IT EASIER TO READ: 1) PLACE ALL OF THE HOLDING SPD REFS AWAY FROM THE BLACK LINE IN ORDER TO SEE THE ALT RESTRS BETTER. 2) PLACE THE KORRY 10000 FT RESTR ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BLACK LINE SINCE IT'S ON THE R AND R OF THE FOLD IN THE PAPER IF THE PAGE BENDS AS IT WILL NORMALLY DO IF NOT COMPLETELY FLAT IT WILL BECOME VERY HARD TO PICK UP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.