<< >> NASA ASRS Report 529351, September 2001

DC9 captain stopped at once when ATCT controller amended his clearance from taxi into position and hold and hold short. However, since he reported to controller that he was over the runway hold short line, another aircraft was sent around.

Attributes
ACN	529351
Time
Date	200109
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0001 To 0600
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mke.airport
State Reference	WI
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : mke.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-9 50
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : mke.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 300
ASRS Report	529351
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : separated traffic flight crew : executed go around other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

Our aircraft was taxiing at mke from gate to runway 25L via txwys B and M. Taxi route and crossing runways were briefed prior to taxi. Conditions were night VFR. While approaching the east end of taxiway M, we were handed over from ground control to tower, who cleared us into position and hold on runway 25L. Several seconds later, a hold short clearance was given. The tower controller commented that he had just noted an edc delay on our flight plan. The hold short clearance was received just after one aircraft had crossed the hold line. We reported to the tower that we had crossed the hold line. Tower then instructed an air carrier Y on a 1 mi final to go around. ATC clearance change from position and hold to hold short was received after a smooth stop short of the hold line could not be made. The only remedy at this point was to report our position as past the hold line.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DC9 CAPT STOPPED AT ONCE WHEN ATCT CTLR AMENDED HIS CLRNC FROM TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD AND HOLD SHORT. HOWEVER, SINCE HE RPTED TO CTLR THAT HE WAS OVER THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE, ANOTHER ACFT WAS SENT AROUND.

Narrative: OUR ACFT WAS TAXIING AT MKE FROM GATE TO RWY 25L VIA TXWYS B AND M. TAXI RTE AND XING RWYS WERE BRIEFED PRIOR TO TAXI. CONDITIONS WERE NIGHT VFR. WHILE APCHING THE E END OF TXWY M, WE WERE HANDED OVER FROM GND CTL TO TWR, WHO CLRED US INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 25L. SEVERAL SECONDS LATER, A HOLD SHORT CLRNC WAS GIVEN. THE TWR CTLR COMMENTED THAT HE HAD JUST NOTED AN EDC DELAY ON OUR FLT PLAN. THE HOLD SHORT CLRNC WAS RECEIVED JUST AFTER ONE ACFT HAD CROSSED THE HOLD LINE. WE RPTED TO THE TWR THAT WE HAD CROSSED THE HOLD LINE. TWR THEN INSTRUCTED AN ACR Y ON A 1 MI FINAL TO GO AROUND. ATC CLRNC CHANGE FROM POS AND HOLD TO HOLD SHORT WAS RECEIVED AFTER A SMOOTH STOP SHORT OF THE HOLD LINE COULD NOT BE MADE. THE ONLY REMEDY AT THIS POINT WAS TO RPT OUR POS AS PAST THE HOLD LINE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.