Narrative:

I was cleared to land, unrestricted, on runway 04R. I had originally planned to make my turnoff at high-speed taxiway kilo. After touchdown, I was rolling out with full reverse thrust and had just begun wheel braking when I realized that trying to make the turnoff at taxiway kilo would require hard braking. So, I let up on the brake pressure and decreased engine reverse thrust so that I could expedite my rollout to the end of the runway. No sooner had I done this, when the tower controller said, 'air carrier X, hold short of runway 8 left.' to hold short would have required very hard braking, so I verbalized to the first officer, 'unable.' however, as I was saying 'unable' to the first officer, I heard the first officer acknowledging tower by transmitting, 'hold short 8 left.' when I heard the first officer's transmission to the tower, I applied hard braking and full reverse thrust in an attempt to hold short of the intersecting runway, but my speed was too high and I ended up stopping about 50 to 75 ft beyond the yellow hold short line for runway 8L. When I looked down toward the approach end of the intersecting runway, I observed a dhc-8 doing an intersection takeoff and a B747 on final approach. It seems that the tower controller had put the dhc-8 into 'position and hold' at mid-field and had hoped to launch it in time to allow the B747 to land unrestricted. Although he had given me an unrestricted landing clearance, it seems that he had assumed that I was going to make an early turnoff instead of using the full runway length. It appears that when he realized that I was going to use the full length of the runway for landing rollout, he issued a last min 'hold short restriction' which I would have preferred to decline, had my first officer not acknowledged the 'hold short' so quickly. Since my landing clearance had originally been unrestricted, I feel that the appropriate action by the tower controller should have been to have the dhc-8 clear the runway. If that had been done, I would have had sufficient time to roll to the end of runway 04R and still allowed the B747 adequate spacing to land unrestricted on intersecting runway 8L. In addition, tower controllers should refrain from issuing last minute 'hold short' instructions to an aircraft that is already rolling out on an unrestricted landing clearance and non-flying pilots should not acknowledge last minute 'hold short' instructions before the flying pilot indicates that he can adhere to it.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DURING LANDING PHASE AT HNL RWY 04R, A B717 CREW IS UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH A LATE LAND AND HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTION.

Narrative: I WAS CLRED TO LAND, UNRESTRICTED, ON RWY 04R. I HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO MAKE MY TURNOFF AT HIGH-SPEED TXWY KILO. AFTER TOUCHDOWN, I WAS ROLLING OUT WITH FULL REVERSE THRUST AND HAD JUST BEGUN WHEEL BRAKING WHEN I REALIZED THAT TRYING TO MAKE THE TURNOFF AT TXWY KILO WOULD REQUIRE HARD BRAKING. SO, I LET UP ON THE BRAKE PRESSURE AND DECREASED ENG REVERSE THRUST SO THAT I COULD EXPEDITE MY ROLLOUT TO THE END OF THE RWY. NO SOONER HAD I DONE THIS, WHEN THE TWR CTLR SAID, 'ACR X, HOLD SHORT OF RWY 8 LEFT.' TO HOLD SHORT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED VERY HARD BRAKING, SO I VERBALIZED TO THE FO, 'UNABLE.' HOWEVER, AS I WAS SAYING 'UNABLE' TO THE FO, I HEARD THE FO ACKNOWLEDGING TWR BY TRANSMITTING, 'HOLD SHORT 8 LEFT.' WHEN I HEARD THE FO'S XMISSION TO THE TWR, I APPLIED HARD BRAKING AND FULL REVERSE THRUST IN AN ATTEMPT TO HOLD SHORT OF THE INTERSECTING RWY, BUT MY SPEED WAS TOO HIGH AND I ENDED UP STOPPING ABOUT 50 TO 75 FT BEYOND THE YELLOW HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 8L. WHEN I LOOKED DOWN TOWARD THE APCH END OF THE INTERSECTING RWY, I OBSERVED A DHC-8 DOING AN INTXN TKOF AND A B747 ON FINAL APCH. IT SEEMS THAT THE TWR CTLR HAD PUT THE DHC-8 INTO 'POSITION AND HOLD' AT MID-FIELD AND HAD HOPED TO LAUNCH IT IN TIME TO ALLOW THE B747 TO LAND UNRESTRICTED. ALTHOUGH HE HAD GIVEN ME AN UNRESTRICTED LANDING CLRNC, IT SEEMS THAT HE HAD ASSUMED THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE AN EARLY TURNOFF INSTEAD OF USING THE FULL RWY LENGTH. IT APPEARS THAT WHEN HE REALIZED THAT I WAS GOING TO USE THE FULL LENGTH OF THE RWY FOR LANDING ROLLOUT, HE ISSUED A LAST MIN 'HOLD SHORT RESTRICTION' WHICH I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO DECLINE, HAD MY FO NOT ACKNOWLEDGED THE 'HOLD SHORT' SO QUICKLY. SINCE MY LANDING CLRNC HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN UNRESTRICTED, I FEEL THAT THE APPROPRIATE ACTION BY THE TWR CTLR SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO HAVE THE DHC-8 CLR THE RWY. IF THAT HAD BEEN DONE, I WOULD HAVE HAD SUFFICIENT TIME TO ROLL TO THE END OF RWY 04R AND STILL ALLOWED THE B747 ADEQUATE SPACING TO LAND UNRESTRICTED ON INTERSECTING RWY 8L. IN ADDITION, TWR CTLRS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ISSUING LAST MINUTE 'HOLD SHORT' INSTRUCTIONS TO AN ACFT THAT IS ALREADY ROLLING OUT ON AN UNRESTRICTED LANDING CLRNC AND NON-FLYING PLTS SHOULD NOT ACKNOWLEDGE LAST MINUTE 'HOLD SHORT' INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE THE FLYING PLT INDICATES THAT HE CAN ADHERE TO IT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.