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A PA18 private pilot enters a possible restr area that is occupied by 2 fire bombers 2 mi from his destination airport, 95L, ca.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 515673 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200106 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : 95l.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc tracon : a80.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-18/19 Super Cub |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 24 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 515673 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter other non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Facility Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Returning from french valley airport (F70) to pauma valley (95L), flying in the valley of palomar mountain, approximately 5 mi from 95L, I observed 4 engine 'fire bomber' at approximately 3 mi ahead flying large circles. Realizing they were likely on a mission and circling for a 'run' I began my descent to pauma valley airport, which would clear their activity vertically and horizontally. I also attempted radio contact to advise my position, and tell them I was landing at pauma valley, and would remain well clear. At that time, I observed a twin engine fire bomber passing me on my right, approximately 1/2 mi, at a high rate of speed. The aircraft had overtaken me from behind. He continued on and joined the 4 engine bomber well ahead and clear of my flight path. I continued my descent and landing at pauma valley without incident. I do not consider safety was ever compromised during this event.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA18 PVT PLT ENTERS A POSSIBLE RESTR AREA THAT IS OCCUPIED BY 2 FIRE BOMBERS 2 MI FROM HIS DEST ARPT, 95L, CA.
Narrative: RETURNING FROM FRENCH VALLEY ARPT (F70) TO PAUMA VALLEY (95L), FLYING IN THE VALLEY OF PALOMAR MOUNTAIN, APPROX 5 MI FROM 95L, I OBSERVED 4 ENG 'FIRE BOMBER' AT APPROX 3 MI AHEAD FLYING LARGE CIRCLES. REALIZING THEY WERE LIKELY ON A MISSION AND CIRCLING FOR A 'RUN' I BEGAN MY DSCNT TO PAUMA VALLEY ARPT, WHICH WOULD CLR THEIR ACTIVITY VERTLY AND HORIZLY. I ALSO ATTEMPTED RADIO CONTACT TO ADVISE MY POS, AND TELL THEM I WAS LNDG AT PAUMA VALLEY, AND WOULD REMAIN WELL CLR. AT THAT TIME, I OBSERVED A TWIN ENG FIRE BOMBER PASSING ME ON MY R, APPROX 1/2 MI, AT A HIGH RATE OF SPD. THE ACFT HAD OVERTAKEN ME FROM BEHIND. HE CONTINUED ON AND JOINED THE 4 ENG BOMBER WELL AHEAD AND CLR OF MY FLT PATH. I CONTINUED MY DSCNT AND LNDG AT PAUMA VALLEY WITHOUT INCIDENT. I DO NOT CONSIDER SAFETY WAS EVER COMPROMISED DURING THIS EVENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.