Narrative:

Phl departure control gave us a clearance of 'cleared direct mxe for, climb and maintain 16000 ft and maintain 280 KIAS or less in the climb.' we were handed off to ZNY and the controller cleared us to climb to FL230. The PNF (captain) asked the controller if he wanted us to maintain 280 KIAS or less in the climb. The controller answered in a very derogatory tone 'aircraft X, what part of the clearance don't you understand?' the captain again asked if ZNY wanted us to remain at 280 KIAS or less. The controller responded, 'actually, I need you at 250 KIAS, but you can maintain 280 KIAS and I can vector you if I need to.' the captain responded she understood the controller could take this action if he needed to. The crew at this point wondered why the controller was being so rude and it irritated us and distraction us somewhat from the task at hand. Shortly after this call, the controller, in a rude tone, explained to us in detail and some length how we should receive and act upon a clearance given by ATC. We were simply asking for a clarification of a clearance we had received from phl departure. At this point we remarked in the cockpit that the controller was quite unprofessional and this litany should be reserved for the telephone and not during busy sector flight operations. Simultaneously, the captain and I realized I had overshot the outbound radial from mxe on J75 (clearance mxe J75 to binks fix). I corrected course immediately to intercept the 240 degree radial outbound from the mxe VOR. The controller also noticed the deviation and asked us where we were going. We informed the controller of the inadvertent error and were correct to course. There were several calls between our cockpit and the controller as to our clearance. The captain misspoke (we understood our clearance) and said we were proceeding direct to binks, which was incorrect, and this only served to make the controller more rude. He informed us of R4001 and wanted to make sure we were not going to fly into the area. The captain asked if we could get a telephone number to discuss the events because we were not exercising brevity and the conversation served to only distract flight operations. In summary the unprovoked, rude and unprofessional behavior of the ZNY controller served as a distraction to the crew during busy departure flight operations. I accept responsibility for my inadvertent navigation error and hope the explanation of this scenario will serve as a learning tool in the future. Supplemental information from acn 512272: the initial problem of an unclr clearance (250 KTS or 280 KTS/vector or as filed) could have been resolved immediately with a direct answer to the captain's inquiry instead of 'I need (this), but I'll give you (that) language.' clear, concise communication is always the goal, and this goal was sacrificed due to irritation by/with the controller and the captain. Further, this verbal conflict caused internal discussion in the cockpit. This internal discussion combined with our being unsure as to a vector or fly the flight plan caused us to delay our turn to J75, and proceed off course briefly. In short, egos and bad days need to be put aside in the interest of professionalism. Needless conflict occupies brain power and can result in degraded performance and unclr instructions.

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Title: DC8 FLC ENTER INTO A VERBAL EXERCISE WITH ZNY CTLR AND MISS THE TURN ON THE SID.

Narrative: PHL DEP CTL GAVE US A CLRNC OF 'CLRED DIRECT MXE FOR, CLB AND MAINTAIN 16000 FT AND MAINTAIN 280 KIAS OR LESS IN THE CLB.' WE WERE HANDED OFF TO ZNY AND THE CTLR CLRED US TO CLB TO FL230. THE PNF (CAPT) ASKED THE CTLR IF HE WANTED US TO MAINTAIN 280 KIAS OR LESS IN THE CLB. THE CTLR ANSWERED IN A VERY DEROGATORY TONE 'ACFT X, WHAT PART OF THE CLRNC DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?' THE CAPT AGAIN ASKED IF ZNY WANTED US TO REMAIN AT 280 KIAS OR LESS. THE CTLR RESPONDED, 'ACTUALLY, I NEED YOU AT 250 KIAS, BUT YOU CAN MAINTAIN 280 KIAS AND I CAN VECTOR YOU IF I NEED TO.' THE CAPT RESPONDED SHE UNDERSTOOD THE CTLR COULD TAKE THIS ACTION IF HE NEEDED TO. THE CREW AT THIS POINT WONDERED WHY THE CTLR WAS BEING SO RUDE AND IT IRRITATED US AND DISTR US SOMEWHAT FROM THE TASK AT HAND. SHORTLY AFTER THIS CALL, THE CTLR, IN A RUDE TONE, EXPLAINED TO US IN DETAIL AND SOME LENGTH HOW WE SHOULD RECEIVE AND ACT UPON A CLRNC GIVEN BY ATC. WE WERE SIMPLY ASKING FOR A CLARIFICATION OF A CLRNC WE HAD RECEIVED FROM PHL DEP. AT THIS POINT WE REMARKED IN THE COCKPIT THAT THE CTLR WAS QUITE UNPROFESSIONAL AND THIS LITANY SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR THE TELEPHONE AND NOT DURING BUSY SECTOR FLT OPS. SIMULTANEOUSLY, THE CAPT AND I REALIZED I HAD OVERSHOT THE OUTBOUND RADIAL FROM MXE ON J75 (CLRNC MXE J75 TO BINKS FIX). I CORRECTED COURSE IMMEDIATELY TO INTERCEPT THE 240 DEG RADIAL OUTBOUND FROM THE MXE VOR. THE CTLR ALSO NOTICED THE DEV AND ASKED US WHERE WE WERE GOING. WE INFORMED THE CTLR OF THE INADVERTENT ERROR AND WERE CORRECT TO COURSE. THERE WERE SEVERAL CALLS BTWN OUR COCKPIT AND THE CTLR AS TO OUR CLRNC. THE CAPT MISSPOKE (WE UNDERSTOOD OUR CLRNC) AND SAID WE WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT TO BINKS, WHICH WAS INCORRECT, AND THIS ONLY SERVED TO MAKE THE CTLR MORE RUDE. HE INFORMED US OF R4001 AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE NOT GOING TO FLY INTO THE AREA. THE CAPT ASKED IF WE COULD GET A TELEPHONE NUMBER TO DISCUSS THE EVENTS BECAUSE WE WERE NOT EXERCISING BREVITY AND THE CONVERSATION SERVED TO ONLY DISTRACT FLT OPS. IN SUMMARY THE UNPROVOKED, RUDE AND UNPROFESSIONAL BEHAVIOR OF THE ZNY CTLR SERVED AS A DISTR TO THE CREW DURING BUSY DEP FLT OPS. I ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY INADVERTENT NAV ERROR AND HOPE THE EXPLANATION OF THIS SCENARIO WILL SERVE AS A LEARNING TOOL IN THE FUTURE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 512272: THE INITIAL PROB OF AN UNCLR CLRNC (250 KTS OR 280 KTS/VECTOR OR AS FILED) COULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED IMMEDIATELY WITH A DIRECT ANSWER TO THE CAPT'S INQUIRY INSTEAD OF 'I NEED (THIS), BUT I'LL GIVE YOU (THAT) LANGUAGE.' CLR, CONCISE COM IS ALWAYS THE GOAL, AND THIS GOAL WAS SACRIFICED DUE TO IRRITATION BY/WITH THE CTLR AND THE CAPT. FURTHER, THIS VERBAL CONFLICT CAUSED INTERNAL DISCUSSION IN THE COCKPIT. THIS INTERNAL DISCUSSION COMBINED WITH OUR BEING UNSURE AS TO A VECTOR OR FLY THE FLT PLAN CAUSED US TO DELAY OUR TURN TO J75, AND PROCEED OFF COURSE BRIEFLY. IN SHORT, EGOS AND BAD DAYS NEED TO BE PUT ASIDE IN THE INTEREST OF PROFESSIONALISM. NEEDLESS CONFLICT OCCUPIES BRAIN PWR AND CAN RESULT IN DEGRADED PERFORMANCE AND UNCLR INSTRUCTIONS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.