Probationary first officer concerned with PIC's attitude about making a fix restr.

Attributes
ACN	509979
Time
Date	200104
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : rbv.vortac
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	msl single value : 11000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zdc.artcc tracon : d21.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4000
ASRS Report	509979
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were given a crossing restr. I advised the captain it would be close. We said 'ah, we'll make it.' a little bit later we said 'it'll be close enough.' he missed it by a few hundred ft and 1 mi. What kind of attitude is 'it will be close enough?' what do you do as a probationary first officer with a captain with that kind of attitude?

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PROBATIONARY FO CONCERNED WITH PIC'S ATTITUDE ABOUT MAKING A FIX RESTR.

Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A XING RESTR. I ADVISED THE CAPT IT WOULD BE CLOSE. WE SAID 'AH, WE'LL MAKE IT.' A LITTLE BIT LATER WE SAID 'IT'LL BE CLOSE ENOUGH.' HE MISSED IT BY A FEW HUNDRED FT AND 1 MI. WHAT KIND OF ATTITUDE IS 'IT WILL BE CLOSE ENOUGH?' WHAT DO YOU DO AS A PROBATIONARY FO WITH A CAPT WITH THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.