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First officer of an air carrier large transport questions the legality of the captain allowing his pilot interested son to ride the jump seat on a scheduled flight.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 495874 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200012 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : gum.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise : level descent : approach ground : preflight landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 900 |
| ASRS Report | 495874 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Right before pushback, captain informed me his 'pilot' son would be on the jump seat. Our company recently changed policy, but it still remains the captain's judgement and discretion. I did not meet jump seat rider until pushback. He had appropriate attire and had been 'cleared' by the captain. During flight, it became obvious the 'pilot' was not an approved carrier. Further, he did not have an appropriate identify. This situation (for me) highlights the industry problem of jump seating. Seemingly, by letting ground personnel screen riders we have one set of problems: not allowing bona fide riders access to the jump seat. Conversely, by leaving it captain's [judgement], another set of problems arise: lack of enforcement and bending of rules.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF AN ACR LGT QUESTIONS THE LEGALITY OF THE CAPT ALLOWING HIS PLT INTERESTED SON TO RIDE THE JUMP SEAT ON A SCHEDULED FLT.
Narrative: RIGHT BEFORE PUSHBACK, CAPT INFORMED ME HIS 'PLT' SON WOULD BE ON THE JUMP SEAT. OUR COMPANY RECENTLY CHANGED POLICY, BUT IT STILL REMAINS THE CAPT'S JUDGEMENT AND DISCRETION. I DID NOT MEET JUMP SEAT RIDER UNTIL PUSHBACK. HE HAD APPROPRIATE ATTIRE AND HAD BEEN 'CLRED' BY THE CAPT. DURING FLT, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THE 'PLT' WAS NOT AN APPROVED CARRIER. FURTHER, HE DID NOT HAVE AN APPROPRIATE IDENT. THIS SIT (FOR ME) HIGHLIGHTS THE INDUSTRY PROB OF JUMP SEATING. SEEMINGLY, BY LETTING GND PERSONNEL SCREEN RIDERS WE HAVE ONE SET OF PROBS: NOT ALLOWING BONA FIDE RIDERS ACCESS TO THE JUMP SEAT. CONVERSELY, BY LEAVING IT CAPT'S [JUDGEMENT], ANOTHER SET OF PROBS ARISE: LACK OF ENFORCEMENT AND BENDING OF RULES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.