<< >> NASA ASRS Report 468020, March 2000

Flight instructor in a C172RG gave student a simulated engine out during initial climb after takeoff and had to recover when the student attempted to turn back to the airport at 300 ft AGL on a collision course with airport hangars.

Attributes
ACN	468020
Time
Date	200003
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : evb.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl single value : 300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 1825 flight time type : 150
ASRS Report	468020
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

On a training flight I gave my student an engine failure about 300 ft AGL. He began to make a turn back towards the airport. I knew he would not have enough altitude to complete the turn, but I let him do so anyway without intervening. After about 60 degrees of heading change to the left, I found ourselves getting close to some hangars. I had to add power and perform a go around. There were some angry people at the airport, including my boss. I should have grabbed control of the aircraft immediately and told him to land straight ahead (which he knows now, of course). Now I will take corrective action much sooner. I guess I just wanted to show him that you cannot make a turn back at such a low altitude.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT INSTRUCTOR IN A C172RG GAVE STUDENT A SIMULATED ENG OUT DURING INITIAL CLB AFTER TKOF AND HAD TO RECOVER WHEN THE STUDENT ATTEMPTED TO TURN BACK TO THE ARPT AT 300 FT AGL ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH ARPT HANGARS.

Narrative: ON A TRAINING FLT I GAVE MY STUDENT AN ENG FAILURE ABOUT 300 FT AGL. HE BEGAN TO MAKE A TURN BACK TOWARDS THE ARPT. I KNEW HE WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH ALT TO COMPLETE THE TURN, BUT I LET HIM DO SO ANYWAY WITHOUT INTERVENING. AFTER ABOUT 60 DEGS OF HDG CHANGE TO THE L, I FOUND OURSELVES GETTING CLOSE TO SOME HANGARS. I HAD TO ADD PWR AND PERFORM A GAR. THERE WERE SOME ANGRY PEOPLE AT THE ARPT, INCLUDING MY BOSS. I SHOULD HAVE GRABBED CTL OF THE ACFT IMMEDIATELY AND TOLD HIM TO LAND STRAIGHT AHEAD (WHICH HE KNOWS NOW, OF COURSE). NOW I WILL TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION MUCH SOONER. I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SHOW HIM THAT YOU CANNOT MAKE A TURN BACK AT SUCH A LOW ALT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.