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Flight crew of an medium large transport was advised by ARTCC controller that they had not made their altitude crossing restr since ATC showed them over the crossing restr fix at a higher altitude than assigned. The aircraft captain's DME indicated that they had not yet reached the fix.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 462590 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200002 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : fjc.vortac |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : mip.mip3 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 462590 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared to descend to cross vibes at 13000 ft on the milton 3 arrival. ZNY stated something like 'air carrier, you're supposed to be at 13000 ft.' we were at 14000 ft descending to 13000 ft. However, our DME had indicated we were on the fjc 298 degree radial, 13 DME and had not reached vibes as indicated on the captain's DME. (The first officer's VOR was tuned to robbinsville.) apparently, the aircraft's DME did not match the ZNY radar.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG WAS ADVISED BY ARTCC CTLR THAT THEY HAD NOT MADE THEIR ALT XING RESTR SINCE ATC SHOWED THEM OVER THE XING RESTR FIX AT A HIGHER ALT THAN ASSIGNED. THE ACFT CAPT'S DME INDICATED THAT THEY HAD NOT YET REACHED THE FIX.
Narrative: CLRED TO DSND TO CROSS VIBES AT 13000 FT ON THE MILTON 3 ARR. ZNY STATED SOMETHING LIKE 'ACR, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 13000 FT.' WE WERE AT 14000 FT DSNDING TO 13000 FT. HOWEVER, OUR DME HAD INDICATED WE WERE ON THE FJC 298 DEG RADIAL, 13 DME AND HAD NOT REACHED VIBES AS INDICATED ON THE CAPT'S DME. (THE FO'S VOR WAS TUNED TO ROBBINSVILLE.) APPARENTLY, THE ACFT'S DME DID NOT MATCH THE ZNY RADAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.