<< >> NASA ASRS Report 460551, January 2000

2 instructional aircraft have near midair collision at pattern entry at sundown in obe, fl, traffic pattern. CTAF was in use by both aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	460551
Time
Date	200001
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : obe.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl single value : 900
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-34-200 Seneca I
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1280 flight time type : 440
ASRS Report	460551
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	flight crew : executed go around
Consequence	other Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 50 vertical : 150
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Just before dark at my home field, my student and I were practicing lndgs in the pattern. A seneca from a nearby city, also with a student and instructor entered the pattern, and even with 4 sets of eyes and ears we could not seem to avoid a near-miss. Obviously, mistakes were made on both sides and the fact that both instructors were distracted by training duties was a major contributing factor...I could have announced crosswind which I didn't and I could have announced downwind sooner which I didn't. I also should have listened much more carefully to the radio.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: 2 INSTRUCTIONAL ACFT HAVE NMAC AT PATTERN ENTRY AT SUNDOWN IN OBE, FL, TFC PATTERN. CTAF WAS IN USE BY BOTH ACFT.

Narrative: JUST BEFORE DARK AT MY HOME FIELD, MY STUDENT AND I WERE PRACTICING LNDGS IN THE PATTERN. A SENECA FROM A NEARBY CITY, ALSO WITH A STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR ENTERED THE PATTERN, AND EVEN WITH 4 SETS OF EYES AND EARS WE COULD NOT SEEM TO AVOID A NEAR-MISS. OBVIOUSLY, MISTAKES WERE MADE ON BOTH SIDES AND THE FACT THAT BOTH INSTRUCTORS WERE DISTRACTED BY TRAINING DUTIES WAS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR...I COULD HAVE ANNOUNCED XWIND WHICH I DIDN'T AND I COULD HAVE ANNOUNCED DOWNWIND SOONER WHICH I DIDN'T. I ALSO SHOULD HAVE LISTENED MUCH MORE CAREFULLY TO THE RADIO.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.