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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 458745 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199912 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sfb.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon tower : bwi.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 9l |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 560 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 458745 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were being vectored for a base leg for ILS runway 9L at sfb. We were heading 280 degrees at 2000 ft. We were told to hold 210 degrees. Just as we started our turn, a plane was on top of us heading approximately 150 degrees. We both diverted, and we entered its wake turbulence. The plane was larger and faster, but I didn't get a good look at it. It was a close call. I was looking for traffic, but I couldn't see him. Approach was really busy and it was VMC, so I realized we were responsible for aircraft separation, but we were under the mode C veil. It was a near miss and with the way the planes were coming at each other it would be hard to see each other. I didn't say anything to approach. The frequency was really busy and I really didn't know what I would have said.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 INSTRUCTIONAL FLT HAS NMAC BELOW THE MCO CLASS B AIRSPACE WHILE UNDER THE CTL OF MCO APCH CTL.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR A BASE LEG FOR ILS RWY 9L AT SFB. WE WERE HDG 280 DEGS AT 2000 FT. WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD 210 DEGS. JUST AS WE STARTED OUR TURN, A PLANE WAS ON TOP OF US HDG APPROX 150 DEGS. WE BOTH DIVERTED, AND WE ENTERED ITS WAKE TURB. THE PLANE WAS LARGER AND FASTER, BUT I DIDN'T GET A GOOD LOOK AT IT. IT WAS A CLOSE CALL. I WAS LOOKING FOR TFC, BUT I COULDN'T SEE HIM. APCH WAS REALLY BUSY AND IT WAS VMC, SO I REALIZED WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR ACFT SEPARATION, BUT WE WERE UNDER THE MODE C VEIL. IT WAS A NEAR MISS AND WITH THE WAY THE PLANES WERE COMING AT EACH OTHER IT WOULD BE HARD TO SEE EACH OTHER. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING TO APCH. THE FREQ WAS REALLY BUSY AND I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE SAID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.