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DC10-30 crew was reprimanded by mem TRACON for not advising ATC that they were not electronically navigating to koley, the OM at mem for runway 36L.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 458739 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199912 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mem.airport |
| State Reference | TN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mem.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-10 30F |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20700 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 458739 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 458160 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On radar vectors for visual approach to runway 36L mem. Controller ordered 'fly direct to koley.' (koley is OM -- no compass locator -- for ILS runway 36L.) while looking for INS coordinates (latitude/longitude) for koley, I set up a dead reckoning heading of 060 degrees. After about 6 mi on this heading, still could not find coordinates for koley. Controller asked what our heading was. We reported 060 degrees and asked if that looked ok for koley. Controller assigned heading 070 degrees and scolded me for not telling him that we were not electronically navigating to koley. WX conditions were severe clear, night VMC, little other air traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10-30 CREW WAS REPRIMANDED BY MEM TRACON FOR NOT ADVISING ATC THAT THEY WERE NOT ELECTRONICALLY NAVING TO KOLEY, THE OM AT MEM FOR RWY 36L.
Narrative: ON RADAR VECTORS FOR VISUAL APCH TO RWY 36L MEM. CTLR ORDERED 'FLY DIRECT TO KOLEY.' (KOLEY IS OM -- NO COMPASS LOCATOR -- FOR ILS RWY 36L.) WHILE LOOKING FOR INS COORDINATES (LATITUDE/LONGITUDE) FOR KOLEY, I SET UP A DEAD RECKONING HDG OF 060 DEGS. AFTER ABOUT 6 MI ON THIS HDG, STILL COULD NOT FIND COORDINATES FOR KOLEY. CTLR ASKED WHAT OUR HDG WAS. WE RPTED 060 DEGS AND ASKED IF THAT LOOKED OK FOR KOLEY. CTLR ASSIGNED HDG 070 DEGS AND SCOLDED ME FOR NOT TELLING HIM THAT WE WERE NOT ELECTRONICALLY NAVING TO KOLEY. WX CONDITIONS WERE SEVERE CLR, NIGHT VMC, LITTLE OTHER AIR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.