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FA20 has near midair collision in ATC directed turn and climbs through FL183 during resolution near lhy.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 446247 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199908 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 17500 msl bound upper : 18300 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Falcon 20G/20GF/ Mysterre Falcon 200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level cruise : ascent cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 446247 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 446473 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne critical other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to assigned airspace flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 7500 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
While cruising at 17500 ft VFR, with radar advisories from ZNY, we were advised of a jet climbing through our altitude. The controller asked if we had visual contact with the traffic which we did not. Within a short period the controller advised us to turn 30 degrees right to avoid the traffic. As we entered a turn we received a TA which immediately changed into an RA climb. We then received an 'increase vertical speed' command, which caused us to climb through FL180. At FL182 we obtained visual contact with the traffic and stopped the climb at FL183. We then descended back down to 17500 ft. The controller asked our altitude and advised us that VFR was not allowed above FL180. We told him that we understood that, but had to follow the RA climb. Supplemental information from acn 446473: controller also stated that midway had executed a climb in response to an RA. Both aircraft should not have been told to climb by TCASII.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FA20 HAS NMAC IN ATC DIRECTED TURN AND CLBS THROUGH FL183 DURING RESOLUTION NEAR LHY.
Narrative: WHILE CRUISING AT 17500 FT VFR, WITH RADAR ADVISORIES FROM ZNY, WE WERE ADVISED OF A JET CLBING THROUGH OUR ALT. THE CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE TFC WHICH WE DID NOT. WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD THE CTLR ADVISED US TO TURN 30 DEGS R TO AVOID THE TFC. AS WE ENTERED A TURN WE RECEIVED A TA WHICH IMMEDIATELY CHANGED INTO AN RA CLB. WE THEN RECEIVED AN 'INCREASE VERT SPD' COMMAND, WHICH CAUSED US TO CLB THROUGH FL180. AT FL182 WE OBTAINED VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE TFC AND STOPPED THE CLB AT FL183. WE THEN DSNDED BACK DOWN TO 17500 FT. THE CTLR ASKED OUR ALT AND ADVISED US THAT VFR WAS NOT ALLOWED ABOVE FL180. WE TOLD HIM THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT HAD TO FOLLOW THE RA CLB. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 446473: CTLR ALSO STATED THAT MIDWAY HAD EXECUTED A CLB IN RESPONSE TO AN RA. BOTH ACFT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TOLD TO CLB BY TCASII.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.