An instructor and student pilot entered spa class C airspace without a clearance.

Attributes
ACN	443009
Time
Date	199907
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : gsp.airport
State Reference	SC
Altitude	msl single value : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : gsp.tracon
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Route In Use	arrival : vfr
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 25
ASRS Report	443009
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 150
ASRS Report	443010
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Upon departure from spartanburg downtown (spa) turned aircraft to a 290 degree heading and attempted to make contact with greer approach. No response heard from greer. Found loose connection and reset. Greer made statements that aircraft must stay outside of a 3 mi radius of primary airport if radio 2-WAY communications are not established. I and the pilot in the left seat delayed the decision to turn away from the class B airspace. We should have turned away from greer as soon as there appeared to be a communication problem.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT PLT ENTERED SPA CLASS C AIRSPACE WITHOUT A CLRNC.

Narrative: UPON DEP FROM SPARTANBURG DOWNTOWN (SPA) TURNED ACFT TO A 290 DEG HDG AND ATTEMPTED TO MAKE CONTACT WITH GREER APCH. NO RESPONSE HEARD FROM GREER. FOUND LOOSE CONNECTION AND RESET. GREER MADE STATEMENTS THAT ACFT MUST STAY OUTSIDE OF A 3 MI RADIUS OF PRIMARY ARPT IF RADIO 2-WAY COMS ARE NOT ESTABLISHED. I AND THE PLT IN THE L SEAT DELAYED THE DECISION TO TURN AWAY FROM THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. WE SHOULD HAVE TURNED AWAY FROM GREER AS SOON AS THERE APPEARED TO BE A COM PROB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.