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A piper cherokee instructor and student pilot failed to see a helicopter hovering over runway and ducked beneath it to land at S07.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 440269 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199906 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : s07.airport |
| State Reference | OR |
| Altitude | agl single value : 25 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 4500 |
| ASRS Report | 440269 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 25 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Student report 10 mi east for advisory -- no response. Student report 5 mi east for advisory -- no response. Observed an aircraft on the runup area for runway 16 S07. Reported left downwind for runway 16 at S07. Heard aircraft transmit he wasn't ready for takeoff. Report base and final to runway 16 S07. As P28A/U crossed the end of the runway 16, a helicopter was hovering approximately 300 ft from runway and right in front of P28A/U. No chance for go around and went under helicopter to uneventful landing. Would have gladly taken a go around if helicopter was seen in time. Aircraft holding was observed and landing continued. My opinion the helicopter had contact with aircraft waiting to take off. We never heard the helicopter, but did hear the aircraft waiting to take off say he'd hold. I can't understand the helicopter hovering over the runway in use and almost vertically over the runway numbers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PIPER CHEROKEE INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT PLT FAILED TO SEE A HELI HOVERING OVER RWY AND DUCKED BENEATH IT TO LAND AT S07.
Narrative: STUDENT RPT 10 MI E FOR ADVISORY -- NO RESPONSE. STUDENT RPT 5 MI E FOR ADVISORY -- NO RESPONSE. OBSERVED AN ACFT ON THE RUNUP AREA FOR RWY 16 S07. RPTED L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 16 AT S07. HEARD ACFT XMIT HE WASN'T READY FOR TKOF. RPT BASE AND FINAL TO RWY 16 S07. AS P28A/U CROSSED THE END OF THE RWY 16, A HELI WAS HOVERING APPROX 300 FT FROM RWY AND RIGHT IN FRONT OF P28A/U. NO CHANCE FOR GAR AND WENT UNDER HELI TO UNEVENTFUL LNDG. WOULD HAVE GLADLY TAKEN A GAR IF HELI WAS SEEN IN TIME. ACFT HOLDING WAS OBSERVED AND LNDG CONTINUED. MY OPINION THE HELI HAD CONTACT WITH ACFT WAITING TO TAKE OFF. WE NEVER HEARD THE HELI, BUT DID HEAR THE ACFT WAITING TO TAKE OFF SAY HE'D HOLD. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE HELI HOVERING OVER THE RWY IN USE AND ALMOST VERTLY OVER THE RWY NUMBERS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.