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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 435848 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199904 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : gtr.airport |
| State Reference | MS |
| Altitude | agl single value : 50 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : jan.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Bonanza 35 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : visual approach : straight in |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 435848 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Columbus approach vectored me north because of traffic (an air carrier flight). I was turned east and I heard the other aircraft 'cancel IFR.' I was directed to the localizer and cleared for the approach. I followed the localizer to runway 18. On my descent, I saw the twin turbine on the runway. I was a long way away and I had him in sight. He was on unicom 122.8 long before me. When I started the approach and called on 122.8, 'small aircraft on the localizer for runway 18,' I never heard a peep out of air carrier. He rolled all the way to the end to turn off and it was there I flew over him and landed long. I do not believe a violation of FARS occurred, since the air carrier aircraft was exiting the runway as I passed the landing threshold. In contrast, the air carrier pilot apparently believes otherwise. He set this up by canceling IFR. I would never have been cleared to approach if he had remained IFR. Summary: if I had known that flying over another aircraft to be a violation, I would not have done so. The air carrier plane had canceled IFR to keep from going through further procedure with approach control. When he canceled, I was 'cleared for the approach.' he knew I was somewhere, but made no attempt to contact me or to make his position known (he says otherwise). This has been a miserable upset to me. The upset caused by this is much worse than any penalty I may be assessed. I will never fly over another aircraft on a runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A BEECH 35 BONANZA FLEW OVER THE TOP OF AN MDT TWIN JET COMMUTER TURNING OFF THE END OF THE RWY AFTER LNDG AT A NON CTLED ARPT.
Narrative: COLUMBUS APCH VECTORED ME N BECAUSE OF TFC (AN ACR FLT). I WAS TURNED E AND I HEARD THE OTHER ACFT 'CANCEL IFR.' I WAS DIRECTED TO THE LOC AND CLRED FOR THE APCH. I FOLLOWED THE LOC TO RWY 18. ON MY DSCNT, I SAW THE TWIN TURBINE ON THE RWY. I WAS A LONG WAY AWAY AND I HAD HIM IN SIGHT. HE WAS ON UNICOM 122.8 LONG BEFORE ME. WHEN I STARTED THE APCH AND CALLED ON 122.8, 'SMA ON THE LOC FOR RWY 18,' I NEVER HEARD A PEEP OUT OF ACR. HE ROLLED ALL THE WAY TO THE END TO TURN OFF AND IT WAS THERE I FLEW OVER HIM AND LANDED LONG. I DO NOT BELIEVE A VIOLATION OF FARS OCCURRED, SINCE THE ACR ACFT WAS EXITING THE RWY AS I PASSED THE LNDG THRESHOLD. IN CONTRAST, THE ACR PLT APPARENTLY BELIEVES OTHERWISE. HE SET THIS UP BY CANCELING IFR. I WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN CLRED TO APCH IF HE HAD REMAINED IFR. SUMMARY: IF I HAD KNOWN THAT FLYING OVER ANOTHER ACFT TO BE A VIOLATION, I WOULD NOT HAVE DONE SO. THE ACR PLANE HAD CANCELED IFR TO KEEP FROM GOING THROUGH FURTHER PROC WITH APCH CTL. WHEN HE CANCELED, I WAS 'CLRED FOR THE APCH.' HE KNEW I WAS SOMEWHERE, BUT MADE NO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME OR TO MAKE HIS POS KNOWN (HE SAYS OTHERWISE). THIS HAS BEEN A MISERABLE UPSET TO ME. THE UPSET CAUSED BY THIS IS MUCH WORSE THAN ANY PENALTY I MAY BE ASSESSED. I WILL NEVER FLY OVER ANOTHER ACFT ON A RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.