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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 432910 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199904 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : iow.airport |
| State Reference | IA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Weather Elements | Turbulence |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 432910 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While at FL310, we encountered turbulence. Asked controller if FL330 was available for a short period, and he said no. Then asked if FL350 was available and he said yes, but he would have to give us a radar vector for traffic separation. We conferred on this in the cockpit, and then said that would be fine and we were issued a turn to a 250 degree heading and we read back a clearance to FL350. At FL335 the controller queried us as to our altitude, and said we were never issued a climb clearance to FL350. He said there was no problem and no conflict and instructed us to continue climb to FL350. We (captain/first officer) had set and confirmed FL350 in the altitude alert when we thought we had a climb clearance. I think the similar heading and the semantics of the exchange between us and the controller, led us to perceive that if we took the heading, then we had a clearance to FL350. When the controller missed our readback of FL350 (he was busy with a lot of WX deviations), it only confirmed our belief we had clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLC MISUNDERSTOOD CLRNC.
Narrative: WHILE AT FL310, WE ENCOUNTERED TURB. ASKED CTLR IF FL330 WAS AVAILABLE FOR A SHORT PERIOD, AND HE SAID NO. THEN ASKED IF FL350 WAS AVAILABLE AND HE SAID YES, BUT HE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE US A RADAR VECTOR FOR TFC SEPARATION. WE CONFERRED ON THIS IN THE COCKPIT, AND THEN SAID THAT WOULD BE FINE AND WE WERE ISSUED A TURN TO A 250 DEG HDG AND WE READ BACK A CLRNC TO FL350. AT FL335 THE CTLR QUERIED US AS TO OUR ALT, AND SAID WE WERE NEVER ISSUED A CLB CLRNC TO FL350. HE SAID THERE WAS NO PROB AND NO CONFLICT AND INSTRUCTED US TO CONTINUE CLB TO FL350. WE (CAPT/FO) HAD SET AND CONFIRMED FL350 IN THE ALT ALERT WHEN WE THOUGHT WE HAD A CLB CLRNC. I THINK THE SIMILAR HDG AND THE SEMANTICS OF THE EXCHANGE BTWN US AND THE CTLR, LED US TO PERCEIVE THAT IF WE TOOK THE HDG, THEN WE HAD A CLRNC TO FL350. WHEN THE CTLR MISSED OUR READBACK OF FL350 (HE WAS BUSY WITH A LOT OF WX DEVS), IT ONLY CONFIRMED OUR BELIEF WE HAD CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.