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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 431110 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199903 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : see.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | M-20 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 4100 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 431110 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing gillespie field (see) for a business trip to phoenix (iwa), I called socal on 124.35 and requested flight following. I continued a slow climb under the 4800 ft MSL floor of the san diego class B airspace, east of gillespie field. When I determined that I had flown far enough east to reach the lateral limits of the 5800 ft floor, I continued climb to 5200 ft. I 'wilco'ed' the 'remain clear' ATC directive. The controller assigned me a discrete squawk and said 'if that's you at 5200 ft, you're in class B airspace without a clearance.' I don't believe, though, that I was within the lateral limits of the 4800 ft floor class B section. Possible cause of the misunderstanding is the complex system of crossing radials used to define the eastern boundary between 4800 ft and 5800 ft class B sections, plus inherent inaccuracy of VOR receivers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A MOONEY ACFT INADVERTENTLY ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE RESULTING IN ATC INTERVENTION AND RADAR CONFIRMATION.
Narrative: DEPARTING GILLESPIE FIELD (SEE) FOR A BUSINESS TRIP TO PHOENIX (IWA), I CALLED SOCAL ON 124.35 AND REQUESTED FLT FOLLOWING. I CONTINUED A SLOW CLB UNDER THE 4800 FT MSL FLOOR OF THE SAN DIEGO CLASS B AIRSPACE, E OF GILLESPIE FIELD. WHEN I DETERMINED THAT I HAD FLOWN FAR ENOUGH E TO REACH THE LATERAL LIMITS OF THE 5800 FT FLOOR, I CONTINUED CLB TO 5200 FT. I 'WILCO'ED' THE 'REMAIN CLR' ATC DIRECTIVE. THE CTLR ASSIGNED ME A DISCRETE SQUAWK AND SAID 'IF THAT'S YOU AT 5200 FT, YOU'RE IN CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT A CLRNC.' I DON'T BELIEVE, THOUGH, THAT I WAS WITHIN THE LATERAL LIMITS OF THE 4800 FT FLOOR CLASS B SECTION. POSSIBLE CAUSE OF THE MISUNDERSTANDING IS THE COMPLEX SYS OF XING RADIALS USED TO DEFINE THE EASTERN BOUNDARY BTWN 4800 FT AND 5800 FT CLASS B SECTIONS, PLUS INHERENT INACCURACY OF VOR RECEIVERS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.