<< >> NASA ASRS Report 429023, February 1999

Captain of a super MD80 finds confusion in the ric colin 1 SID departure in that it does not clarify which transition is used and the mi is not depicted on the chart from the airport to the first fix.

Attributes
ACN	429023
Time
Date	199902
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ric
State Reference	VA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Super 80
Route In Use	departure other departure sid : sid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	429023
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Colin 1 departure (SID) for ric, va, has confusing depiction/narrative description. The way it is shown on commercial page 10-3 and the way clearance delivery gives ATC clearance leads to confusion about whether one should fly ric 074 degree radial to model intersection or ric 048 degree radial to tappa intersection. This should be clarified. I suggest naming them different transitions. Also, mileage should be shown between ric and tappa on V16 on the commercial SID. It is not shown currently. Low altitude en route chart shows 36 NM for that segment.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CAPT OF A SUPER MD80 FINDS CONFUSION IN THE RIC COLIN 1 SID DEP IN THAT IT DOES NOT CLARIFY WHICH TRANSITION IS USED AND THE MI IS NOT DEPICTED ON THE CHART FROM THE ARPT TO THE FIRST FIX.

Narrative: COLIN 1 DEP (SID) FOR RIC, VA, HAS CONFUSING DEPICTION/NARRATIVE DESCRIPTION. THE WAY IT IS SHOWN ON COMMERCIAL PAGE 10-3 AND THE WAY CLRNC DELIVERY GIVES ATC CLRNC LEADS TO CONFUSION ABOUT WHETHER ONE SHOULD FLY RIC 074 DEG RADIAL TO MODEL INTXN OR RIC 048 DEG RADIAL TO TAPPA INTXN. THIS SHOULD BE CLARIFIED. I SUGGEST NAMING THEM DIFFERENT TRANSITIONS. ALSO, MILEAGE SHOULD BE SHOWN BTWN RIC AND TAPPA ON V16 ON THE COMMERCIAL SID. IT IS NOT SHOWN CURRENTLY. LOW ALT ENRTE CHART SHOWS 36 NM FOR THAT SEGMENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.