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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 421250 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199812 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : n90 |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 1300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : teb |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 350 |
| ASRS Report | 421250 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Class D tower controller assigned me a discrete transponder code as part of a clearance for VFR departure which did not include any altitude restr. In the past, when I have departed teb, I was handed off to ZNY or approach. On climb out from teb, I asked the controller about my handoff. He said he wasn't giving me one. I was momentarily distraction and climbed into the base of the nyc class B airspace by 100 ft. Why do they give a discrete code to VFR planes without a handoff?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PART 91 PLT ERRONEOUSLY ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE WHILE DEPARTING TEB ARPT.
Narrative: CLASS D TWR CTLR ASSIGNED ME A DISCRETE XPONDER CODE AS PART OF A CLRNC FOR VFR DEP WHICH DID NOT INCLUDE ANY ALT RESTR. IN THE PAST, WHEN I HAVE DEPARTED TEB, I WAS HANDED OFF TO ZNY OR APCH. ON CLBOUT FROM TEB, I ASKED THE CTLR ABOUT MY HDOF. HE SAID HE WASN'T GIVING ME ONE. I WAS MOMENTARILY DISTR AND CLBED INTO THE BASE OF THE NYC CLASS B AIRSPACE BY 100 FT. WHY DO THEY GIVE A DISCRETE CODE TO VFR PLANES WITHOUT A HDOF?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.