<< >> NASA ASRS Report 417684, October 1998

Crew on charter flight from flo at 10000 ft issued traffic by approach control on a flight of 4 F16's climbing VFR through their altitude.

Attributes
ACN	417684
Time
Date	199810
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ssc
State Reference	SC
Altitude	msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	military facility : ssc
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Fighting Falcon F16
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1050
ASRS Report	417684
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

We were wbound from flo to cae, IFR at 10000 ft. Shaw approach control issued a TA for a flight of 4 F16's eastbound climbing VFR through our altitude. Saw the #1 aircraft pass high to our right. Never saw the #2 aircraft. Approach issued an advisory for the remaining 2 aircraft at 12 O'clock position and climbing through 8000 ft. TCASII gave an audible traffic alert just as we saw both aircraft straight ahead, lower and climbing directly at us. Barely had time to react. We went right between the F16's, each one passing approximately 150 ft off each wing. The F16 on our right broke left about 100-200 yards in front of us. Not sure if the other one even saw us, as they were looking somewhat into the sun. Much, much too close for comfort, and uncalled for, I believe, on the TRACON's part. They should have given us or them a turn or had them level off at 9500 ft.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CREW ON CHARTER FLT FROM FLO AT 10000 FT ISSUED TFC BY APCH CTL ON A FLT OF 4 F16'S CLBING VFR THROUGH THEIR ALT.

Narrative: WE WERE WBOUND FROM FLO TO CAE, IFR AT 10000 FT. SHAW APCH CTL ISSUED A TA FOR A FLT OF 4 F16'S EBOUND CLBING VFR THROUGH OUR ALT. SAW THE #1 ACFT PASS HIGH TO OUR R. NEVER SAW THE #2 ACFT. APCH ISSUED AN ADVISORY FOR THE REMAINING 2 ACFT AT 12 O'CLOCK POS AND CLBING THROUGH 8000 FT. TCASII GAVE AN AUDIBLE TFC ALERT JUST AS WE SAW BOTH ACFT STRAIGHT AHEAD, LOWER AND CLBING DIRECTLY AT US. BARELY HAD TIME TO REACT. WE WENT RIGHT BTWN THE F16'S, EACH ONE PASSING APPROX 150 FT OFF EACH WING. THE F16 ON OUR R BROKE L ABOUT 100-200 YARDS IN FRONT OF US. NOT SURE IF THE OTHER ONE EVEN SAW US, AS THEY WERE LOOKING SOMEWHAT INTO THE SUN. MUCH, MUCH TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT, AND UNCALLED FOR, I BELIEVE, ON THE TRACON'S PART. THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN US OR THEM A TURN OR HAD THEM LEVEL OFF AT 9500 FT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.