A CL600 challenger crew faces difficulty in making the teb runway 1 visual approach. PIC leaves 3000...

Attributes
ACN	415478
Time
Date	199809
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : jfk airport : teb
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Challenger CL600
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	Other other vortac
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other
Route In Use	approach : visual arrival other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 3250 flight time type : 250
ASRS Report	415478
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Chart Or Publication
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

New york approach cleared us down to 3000 ft, told us to fly 100 degrees to enter visual approach to runway 1 at teb, which is a depicted visual approach procedure. This approach procedure is very difficult to understand due to unfamiliar landmarks such as 'willowbrook mall' and 'garden state parkway.' at 24 DME from jfk 318 degree radial, I started a descent to 2000 ft, which is the recommended altitude after passing the willowbrook mall, which is at 26.7 DME from jfk 318 degree radial. At 2700 ft MSL, controller stated that I was descending and that I wasn't cleared for anything. He then reclred me for the visual approach to runway 1 at teb and stated that I had to cross garden state parkway at 1500 ft MSL, which initially was very difficult to find from the air, because I did not have a new jersey road map in front of me. The controller stated 'I know this is a difficult approach, but you are still required to comply,' which I believe I did. In my opinion, this is a very poor approach which has poor identify landmarks if you are not totally familiar with the local area. In addition, I believe I was getting false information from jfk VOR on the 318 degree radial due to interference from the tall buildings at downtown new york city. #2 HSI was showing on 318 degree radial, while #1 HSI was showing 1 DOT out to the left of jfk 318 degree radial. This information, along with the unclr instructions from the new york approach controller, made this visual approach very confusing.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A CL600 CHALLENGER CREW FACES DIFFICULTY IN MAKING THE TEB RWY 1 VISUAL APCH. PIC LEAVES 3000 FT TOO EARLY WHEN HE BELIEVES HE IS FOLLOWING THE DICTATES OF THE APCH.

Narrative: NEW YORK APCH CLRED US DOWN TO 3000 FT, TOLD US TO FLY 100 DEGS TO ENTER VISUAL APCH TO RWY 1 AT TEB, WHICH IS A DEPICTED VISUAL APCH PROC. THIS APCH PROC IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND DUE TO UNFAMILIAR LANDMARKS SUCH AS 'WILLOWBROOK MALL' AND 'GARDEN STATE PARKWAY.' AT 24 DME FROM JFK 318 DEG RADIAL, I STARTED A DSCNT TO 2000 FT, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDED ALT AFTER PASSING THE WILLOWBROOK MALL, WHICH IS AT 26.7 DME FROM JFK 318 DEG RADIAL. AT 2700 FT MSL, CTLR STATED THAT I WAS DSNDING AND THAT I WASN'T CLRED FOR ANYTHING. HE THEN RECLRED ME FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 1 AT TEB AND STATED THAT I HAD TO CROSS GARDEN STATE PARKWAY AT 1500 FT MSL, WHICH INITIALLY WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND FROM THE AIR, BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE A NEW JERSEY ROAD MAP IN FRONT OF ME. THE CTLR STATED 'I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT APCH, BUT YOU ARE STILL REQUIRED TO COMPLY,' WHICH I BELIEVE I DID. IN MY OPINION, THIS IS A VERY POOR APCH WHICH HAS POOR IDENT LANDMARKS IF YOU ARE NOT TOTALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE LCL AREA. IN ADDITION, I BELIEVE I WAS GETTING FALSE INFO FROM JFK VOR ON THE 318 DEG RADIAL DUE TO INTERFERENCE FROM THE TALL BUILDINGS AT DOWNTOWN NEW YORK CITY. #2 HSI WAS SHOWING ON 318 DEG RADIAL, WHILE #1 HSI WAS SHOWING 1 DOT OUT TO THE L OF JFK 318 DEG RADIAL. THIS INFO, ALONG WITH THE UNCLR INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NEW YORK APCH CTLR, MADE THIS VISUAL APCH VERY CONFUSING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A CL600 challenger crew faces difficulty in making the teb runway 1 visual approach. PIC leaves 3000 ft too early when he believes he is following the dictates of the approach.