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A cpr jet does not make an altitude crossing restr of 14000 ft. PIC says they were not told of the restr, just the altitude change by the previous center controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 415180 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199809 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : psp |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zla |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 415180 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Controller gave us pilot's discretion to descend to 14000 ft. We were given new center frequency and when we checked on, the new controller asked if we were given a crossing restr of 14000 ft at an intersection ahead. I said no and he came back to me and said the previous controller had issued the crossing restr. I said he had not and that's the event.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR JET DOES NOT MAKE AN ALT XING RESTR OF 14000 FT. PIC SAYS THEY WERE NOT TOLD OF THE RESTR, JUST THE ALT CHANGE BY THE PREVIOUS CTR CTLR.
Narrative: CTLR GAVE US PLT'S DISCRETION TO DSND TO 14000 FT. WE WERE GIVEN NEW CTR FREQ AND WHEN WE CHKED ON, THE NEW CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE GIVEN A XING RESTR OF 14000 FT AT AN INTXN AHEAD. I SAID NO AND HE CAME BACK TO ME AND SAID THE PREVIOUS CTLR HAD ISSUED THE XING RESTR. I SAID HE HAD NOT AND THAT'S THE EVENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.