An air carrier DC9 flight crew had trouble obtaining WX information at msp. Due to construction, runway 12R has only 6000 ft available for landing and requires a 2 hour notification if runway 12R is unacceptable.

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Attributes
ACN	399100
Time
Date	199804
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : msp
State Reference	MN
Altitude	msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : msp
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-9 40
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 5400 flight time type : 1800
ASRS Report	399100
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 10000
ASRS Report	398732
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We advised msp approach we needed to land on runway 12L due to our heavy weight. (Runway 12R currently only 6000 ft available due to construction.) ATC chastised us for not requesting the longer runway at least 2 hours earlier per NOTAM. Our ACARS was down and we were not able to compute landing data until the arrival phase. Supplemental information from acn 398732: departed bwi at maximum allowable takeoff weight of 113900 pounds. Landing weight at msp estimated at 98900 pounds. Could not get landing data until descent -- too heavy for runway 12R tmp. Chastised by ATC for not telling ZMP 1 hour sooner, but did not have data then.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR DC9 FLC HAD TROUBLE OBTAINING WX INFO AT MSP. DUE TO CONSTRUCTION, RWY 12R HAS ONLY 6000 FT AVAILABLE FOR LNDG AND REQUIRES A 2 HR NOTIFICATION IF RWY 12R IS UNACCEPTABLE.

Narrative: WE ADVISED MSP APCH WE NEEDED TO LAND ON RWY 12L DUE TO OUR HVY WT. (RWY 12R CURRENTLY ONLY 6000 FT AVAILABLE DUE TO CONSTRUCTION.) ATC CHASTISED US FOR NOT REQUESTING THE LONGER RWY AT LEAST 2 HRS EARLIER PER NOTAM. OUR ACARS WAS DOWN AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO COMPUTE LNDG DATA UNTIL THE ARR PHASE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 398732: DEPARTED BWI AT MAX ALLOWABLE TKOF WT OF 113900 LBS. LNDG WT AT MSP ESTIMATED AT 98900 LBS. COULD NOT GET LNDG DATA UNTIL DSCNT -- TOO HVY FOR RWY 12R TMP. CHASTISED BY ATC FOR NOT TELLING ZMP 1 HR SOONER, BUT DID NOT HAVE DATA THEN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.