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|general aviation : instructional
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|instruction : instructor
|pilot : commercial
pilot : cfi
pilot : instrument
|flight time last 90 days : 190
flight time total : 750
flight time type : 280
|instruction : trainee
|pilot : student
|incursion : landing without clearance
non adherence : published procedure
|other other : unspecified
|none taken : detected after the fact
|Air Traffic Incident
During a training flight originating in front royal, va (frr), I decided to take my student to new market airport (W45). While approaching the airport we called for an airport advisory. We received an airport advisory from a female, which included current conditions and active runway. There was no mention that the airport was closed. We continued on, made 1 full stop landing, then took off and made 1 touch- and-go. While departing the traffic pattern, a man asked for our registration number and informed us that the airport was closed. We informed him that we had received an advisory stating the active runway and no mention to an airport closure. He was unaware that the previous unicom operator had given the advisory. He stated the airport was closed due to equipment on the runway. We saw no equipment on the runway but did see 1 piece of equipment (a small cart) alongside the runway in the grass. He informed us that a NOTAM was published. I feel the problem arose when the initial unicom operator gave us an airport advisory and failed to mention that the airport was closed. I did not plan on flying to new market before departing front royal and was relying on an accurate airport advisory for new market. I would not have continued the flight to new market if I had not received an airport advisory or if I was informed that it was closed. This situation could have been avoided if I had received a briefing for NOTAMS before or during flight. It also could have been avoided if the unicom operator had been made aware of the airport closure. While in-flight, I feel that I should be able to rely on an airport advisory for pertinent information like airport closures. I also feel that I was put in danger by being misinformed about such pertinent information. I was led to believe that the airport was open.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA ACFT ON TRAINING FLT FLEW TO OUTLYING ARPT FOR PRACTICE LNDGS. UNICOM OPERATOR GAVE ARPT ADVISORY INFO - - CURRENT CONDITIONS, RWY, ETC, BUT FAILED TO TELL RPTR ACFT THAT THE ARPT WAS CLOSED. AFTER SOME PRACTICE LNDGS ANOTHER UNICOM OPERATED CALLED AND TOLD RPTR THAT THE ARPT WAS CLOSED.
Narrative: DURING A TRAINING FLT ORIGINATING IN FRONT ROYAL, VA (FRR), I DECIDED TO TAKE MY STUDENT TO NEW MARKET ARPT (W45). WHILE APCHING THE ARPT WE CALLED FOR AN ARPT ADVISORY. WE RECEIVED AN ARPT ADVISORY FROM A FEMALE, WHICH INCLUDED CURRENT CONDITIONS AND ACTIVE RWY. THERE WAS NO MENTION THAT THE ARPT WAS CLOSED. WE CONTINUED ON, MADE 1 FULL STOP LNDG, THEN TOOK OFF AND MADE 1 TOUCH- AND-GO. WHILE DEPARTING THE TFC PATTERN, A MAN ASKED FOR OUR REGISTRATION NUMBER AND INFORMED US THAT THE ARPT WAS CLOSED. WE INFORMED HIM THAT WE HAD RECEIVED AN ADVISORY STATING THE ACTIVE RWY AND NO MENTION TO AN ARPT CLOSURE. HE WAS UNAWARE THAT THE PREVIOUS UNICOM OPERATOR HAD GIVEN THE ADVISORY. HE STATED THE ARPT WAS CLOSED DUE TO EQUIP ON THE RWY. WE SAW NO EQUIP ON THE RWY BUT DID SEE 1 PIECE OF EQUIP (A SMALL CART) ALONGSIDE THE RWY IN THE GRASS. HE INFORMED US THAT A NOTAM WAS PUBLISHED. I FEEL THE PROB AROSE WHEN THE INITIAL UNICOM OPERATOR GAVE US AN ARPT ADVISORY AND FAILED TO MENTION THAT THE ARPT WAS CLOSED. I DID NOT PLAN ON FLYING TO NEW MARKET BEFORE DEPARTING FRONT ROYAL AND WAS RELYING ON AN ACCURATE ARPT ADVISORY FOR NEW MARKET. I WOULD NOT HAVE CONTINUED THE FLT TO NEW MARKET IF I HAD NOT RECEIVED AN ARPT ADVISORY OR IF I WAS INFORMED THAT IT WAS CLOSED. THIS SIT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF I HAD RECEIVED A BRIEFING FOR NOTAMS BEFORE OR DURING FLT. IT ALSO COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE UNICOM OPERATOR HAD BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE ARPT CLOSURE. WHILE INFLT, I FEEL THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO RELY ON AN ARPT ADVISORY FOR PERTINENT INFO LIKE ARPT CLOSURES. I ALSO FEEL THAT I WAS PUT IN DANGER BY BEING MISINFORMED ABOUT SUCH PERTINENT INFO. I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT THE ARPT WAS OPEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.