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Large transport flight crew fails to meet crossing restr on descent into dfw. Shortly after on the arrival they failed to comply with speed restr.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 384950 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199711 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw tower : lit |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 384950 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the glen rose arrival into dfw from the west, captain flying. Given clearance at pilot discretion to descend to 11000 ft. The descent to 11000 ft was initiated late and I advised center that we would have difficulty making this restr. The response was 'yeah, we were just talking about that.' we made the descent and leveled at 11000 ft at 38 mi from jen vice 40 mi as cleared. On the same arrival at the fever intersection (jen 039 degree radial, 15 NM) the clearance on the arrival was 250 KTS for north lndgs. We misread this as 280 KTS. Both errors were made due to inattention from conversation. No conflicts, TCASII on, controller comments noted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT FLC FAILS TO MEET XING RESTR ON DSCNT INTO DFW. SHORTLY AFTER ON THE ARR THEY FAILED TO COMPLY WITH SPD RESTR.
Narrative: ON THE GLEN ROSE ARR INTO DFW FROM THE W, CAPT FLYING. GIVEN CLRNC AT PLT DISCRETION TO DSND TO 11000 FT. THE DSCNT TO 11000 FT WAS INITIATED LATE AND I ADVISED CTR THAT WE WOULD HAVE DIFFICULTY MAKING THIS RESTR. THE RESPONSE WAS 'YEAH, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT.' WE MADE THE DSCNT AND LEVELED AT 11000 FT AT 38 MI FROM JEN VICE 40 MI AS CLRED. ON THE SAME ARR AT THE FEVER INTXN (JEN 039 DEG RADIAL, 15 NM) THE CLRNC ON THE ARR WAS 250 KTS FOR N LNDGS. WE MISREAD THIS AS 280 KTS. BOTH ERRORS WERE MADE DUE TO INATTENTION FROM CONVERSATION. NO CONFLICTS, TCASII ON, CTLR COMMENTS NOTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.