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Operational error less than standard separation when arrival T34 on approach overtook PA44 on the final approach cross.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 380945 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199709 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pns |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1700 msl bound upper : 1700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pns tower : pns |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Mentor (T-34) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 6 controller radar : 8 |
| ASRS Report | 380945 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Aircraft #1 was turned on final 8-9 mi north, then aircraft #2 was turned on the final about 5-6 mi same altitude. Aircraft #1, who was faster than aircraft #2, overtook and was vectored off the final with 1.5 NM separation and decreasing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OPERROR LTSS WHEN ARR T34 ON APCH OVERTOOK PA44 ON THE FINAL APCH CROSS.
Narrative: ACFT #1 WAS TURNED ON FINAL 8-9 MI N, THEN ACFT #2 WAS TURNED ON THE FINAL ABOUT 5-6 MI SAME ALT. ACFT #1, WHO WAS FASTER THAN ACFT #2, OVERTOOK AND WAS VECTORED OFF THE FINAL WITH 1.5 NM SEPARATION AND DECREASING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.