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After touchdown for full stop, tower instructed reporter pilot to exit the runway immediately. Reporter apparently tried to exit too fast resulting in damage to the aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 379264 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199709 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : oak |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-34-220T Turbo Seneca III |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around landing other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 750 |
| ASRS Report | 379264 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was instructed to evacuate/evacuation to 'get off the runway any way you can, now' by local control while on rollout on a full-stop landing, leaving the runway immediately to the unpaved side field, denting the propellers and damaging the landing gear, luckily only slightly. Apparently a yak (wwii small size airplane I describe it as far as I know) happened to be right behind us on final with a broken radio, we actually saw him going around after the event. I believe that tower placed us on a dangerous situation. It's unacceptable that after being instructed first, to widen our pattern then to shorten our base and finally clear to land, 5 seconds after our plane crossed the threshold we were instructed this way. Controller obviously knew our position and the radio failure aircraft position (because local was transmitting to them all the time), but still cleared us to land, placing us in a dangerous situation. If there ever was a dangerous situation, and if such situation was never dangerous I would like to know -- why were we instructed in such a hard way, that could have caused a greater damage to our plane?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER TOUCHDOWN FOR FULL STOP, TWR INSTRUCTED RPTR PLT TO EXIT THE RWY IMMEDIATELY. RPTR APPARENTLY TRIED TO EXIT TOO FAST RESULTING IN DAMAGE TO THE ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS INSTRUCTED TO EVAC TO 'GET OFF THE RWY ANY WAY YOU CAN, NOW' BY LCL CTL WHILE ON ROLLOUT ON A FULL-STOP LNDG, LEAVING THE RWY IMMEDIATELY TO THE UNPAVED SIDE FIELD, DENTING THE PROPS AND DAMAGING THE LNDG GEAR, LUCKILY ONLY SLIGHTLY. APPARENTLY A YAK (WWII SMALL SIZE AIRPLANE I DESCRIBE IT AS FAR AS I KNOW) HAPPENED TO BE RIGHT BEHIND US ON FINAL WITH A BROKEN RADIO, WE ACTUALLY SAW HIM GOING AROUND AFTER THE EVENT. I BELIEVE THAT TWR PLACED US ON A DANGEROUS SIT. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE THAT AFTER BEING INSTRUCTED FIRST, TO WIDEN OUR PATTERN THEN TO SHORTEN OUR BASE AND FINALLY CLR TO LAND, 5 SECONDS AFTER OUR PLANE CROSSED THE THRESHOLD WE WERE INSTRUCTED THIS WAY. CTLR OBVIOUSLY KNEW OUR POS AND THE RADIO FAILURE ACFT POS (BECAUSE LCL WAS XMITTING TO THEM ALL THE TIME), BUT STILL CLRED US TO LAND, PLACING US IN A DANGEROUS SIT. IF THERE EVER WAS A DANGEROUS SIT, AND IF SUCH SIT WAS NEVER DANGEROUS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW -- WHY WERE WE INSTRUCTED IN SUCH A HARD WAY, THAT COULD HAVE CAUSED A GREATER DAMAGE TO OUR PLANE?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.