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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 376996 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199708 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 376996 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At 15 mins prior to departure, FAA jump seater (who is a line maintenance inspector) became concerned about 3 circuit breakers which were pulled and collared. These were the rain repellent circuit breaker, the pack flow circuit breaker, panel 11-3, circuit breaker N17, and the ADF circuit breaker panel 11-4 circuit breaker F-27. He was worried that the inoperative placards might confuse someone that the equipment was broken and should be shown in the logbook as a deferred item. I assured him that the equipment was not installed on the aircraft. I satisfied him on the rain repellent since there is an sel entry for that item on my flight plan. I told him that the other 2 were confign items from the boeing production line and that they never had been installed, even though the ADF control head and the circuit breakers were in evidence. I declined to delay the flight in order to let him confer with the maintenance higher- ups at air carrier and he sternly remarked that if I felt comfortable taking the aircraft in this condition, then we could go. I assured him as to that and we departed on time. This is a heads up to maintenance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767 PRIOR TO DEP HAD AN FAA MAINT INSPECTOR QUESTION NO LOG ENTRY FOR CIRCUIT BREAKERS THAT WERE COLLARED FOR SYS NOT INSTALLED OR REMOVED FROM THE ACFT.
Narrative: AT 15 MINS PRIOR TO DEP, FAA JUMP SEATER (WHO IS A LINE MAINT INSPECTOR) BECAME CONCERNED ABOUT 3 CIRCUIT BREAKERS WHICH WERE PULLED AND COLLARED. THESE WERE THE RAIN REPELLENT CIRCUIT BREAKER, THE PACK FLOW CIRCUIT BREAKER, PANEL 11-3, CIRCUIT BREAKER N17, AND THE ADF CIRCUIT BREAKER PANEL 11-4 CIRCUIT BREAKER F-27. HE WAS WORRIED THAT THE INOP PLACARDS MIGHT CONFUSE SOMEONE THAT THE EQUIP WAS BROKEN AND SHOULD BE SHOWN IN THE LOGBOOK AS A DEFERRED ITEM. I ASSURED HIM THAT THE EQUIP WAS NOT INSTALLED ON THE ACFT. I SATISFIED HIM ON THE RAIN REPELLENT SINCE THERE IS AN SEL ENTRY FOR THAT ITEM ON MY FLT PLAN. I TOLD HIM THAT THE OTHER 2 WERE CONFIGN ITEMS FROM THE BOEING PRODUCTION LINE AND THAT THEY NEVER HAD BEEN INSTALLED, EVEN THOUGH THE ADF CTL HEAD AND THE CIRCUIT BREAKERS WERE IN EVIDENCE. I DECLINED TO DELAY THE FLT IN ORDER TO LET HIM CONFER WITH THE MAINT HIGHER- UPS AT ACR AND HE STERNLY REMARKED THAT IF I FELT COMFORTABLE TAKING THE ACFT IN THIS CONDITION, THEN WE COULD GO. I ASSURED HIM AS TO THAT AND WE DEPARTED ON TIME. THIS IS A HEADS UP TO MAINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.