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A C182 pilot was given permission to enter class B airspace in order to climb 'at his discretion.' he later exited class B and then re-entered class B. The departure controller led him to believe that his actions were wrong.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 373250 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199707 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : slc |
| State Reference | UT |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9500 msl bound upper : 9500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : slc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 26 flight time total : 1096 flight time type : 1046 |
| ASRS Report | 373250 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Clearance delivery assigned me a discrete transponder code to squawk and routing instructions. Later, departure control approved an 'immediate l-hand turn, ascend through class B airspace at your discretion -- no altitude restr.' (this was given after I again requested a l-hand turn, departing runway 14, toward ft bridger, wy.) I assumed that I was thereby approved to exit and enter class B airspace as needed to avoid rapidly rising terrain. What causes me some concern is the 'farewell' I received from departure control: 'north-number you have re-entered class B airspace, 2 mi, squawk VFR, frequency change approved.' I acknowledged with 'squawk VFR, good day.' no further mention was made and as I progressed throughout the flight I wondered if re-entry of class B was prohibited even though I was squawking a discrete code and presumed under control throughout.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C182 PLT WAS GIVEN PERMISSION TO ENTER CLASS B AIRSPACE IN ORDER TO CLB 'AT HIS DISCRETION.' HE LATER EXITED CLASS B AND THEN RE-ENTERED CLASS B. THE DEP CTLR LED HIM TO BELIEVE THAT HIS ACTIONS WERE WRONG.
Narrative: CLRNC DELIVERY ASSIGNED ME A DISCRETE XPONDER CODE TO SQUAWK AND ROUTING INSTRUCTIONS. LATER, DEP CTL APPROVED AN 'IMMEDIATE L-HAND TURN, ASCEND THROUGH CLASS B AIRSPACE AT YOUR DISCRETION -- NO ALT RESTR.' (THIS WAS GIVEN AFTER I AGAIN REQUESTED A L-HAND TURN, DEPARTING RWY 14, TOWARD FT BRIDGER, WY.) I ASSUMED THAT I WAS THEREBY APPROVED TO EXIT AND ENTER CLASS B AIRSPACE AS NEEDED TO AVOID RAPIDLY RISING TERRAIN. WHAT CAUSES ME SOME CONCERN IS THE 'FAREWELL' I RECEIVED FROM DEP CTL: 'N-NUMBER YOU HAVE RE-ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE, 2 MI, SQUAWK VFR, FREQ CHANGE APPROVED.' I ACKNOWLEDGED WITH 'SQUAWK VFR, GOOD DAY.' NO FURTHER MENTION WAS MADE AND AS I PROGRESSED THROUGHOUT THE FLT I WONDERED IF RE-ENTRY OF CLASS B WAS PROHIBITED EVEN THOUGH I WAS SQUAWKING A DISCRETE CODE AND PRESUMED UNDER CTL THROUGHOUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.