<< >> NASA ASRS Report 361670, February 1997

Clearance on request. Unauthorized uncoord penetration of airspace by cpr jet. Climbing departure traffic.

Attributes
ACN	361670
Time
Date	199702
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lwc
State Reference	KS
Altitude	msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dawn
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zkc tracon : mci tower : dfw
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure other enroute : direct
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6600 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	361670
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Departed runway 33 at lawrence, ks, VFR, and contacted center to get an IFR clearance to dca. Lawrence is situated approximately 13 NM west of the kansas city class B airspace which extends from 4000-8000 ft MSL closest to lawrence. Instead of departing the airport, which is uncontrolled, with standard left hand traffic, the PF made a right turn eastbound and climbed on course toward iiu. Left hand traffic would have given us time to climb above the class B airspace, but the right turn greatly reduced our chances of climbing over the class B. Center was very slow in giving us a clearance and I fear we penetrated the class B without a clearance, or a pointout by center to kansas city approach. This is just another case of rushing and using non standard procedures.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLRNC ON REQUEST. UNAUTH UNCOORD PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE BY CPR JET. CLBING DEP TFC.

Narrative: DEPARTED RWY 33 AT LAWRENCE, KS, VFR, AND CONTACTED CTR TO GET AN IFR CLRNC TO DCA. LAWRENCE IS SITUATED APPROX 13 NM W OF THE KANSAS CITY CLASS B AIRSPACE WHICH EXTENDS FROM 4000-8000 FT MSL CLOSEST TO LAWRENCE. INSTEAD OF DEPARTING THE ARPT, WHICH IS UNCTLED, WITH STANDARD L HAND TFC, THE PF MADE A R TURN EBOUND AND CLBED ON COURSE TOWARD IIU. L HAND TFC WOULD HAVE GIVEN US TIME TO CLB ABOVE THE CLASS B AIRSPACE, BUT THE R TURN GREATLY REDUCED OUR CHANCES OF CLBING OVER THE CLASS B. CTR WAS VERY SLOW IN GIVING US A CLRNC AND I FEAR WE PENETRATED THE CLASS B WITHOUT A CLRNC, OR A POINTOUT BY CTR TO KANSAS CITY APCH. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CASE OF RUSHING AND USING NON STANDARD PROCS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.