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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 344720 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199608 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bdl |
| State Reference | CT |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 344720 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
As we were pushing back, we were cleared for engine start. After shutting off the packs, I found we only had 20 psi starting pressure which is below the minimum start psi. I requested a start cart and we accomplished a normal start off the gate. I reviewed the MEL and made my decision to continue the flight. The APU was operating normally except for the low pneumatic psi. While in cruise, I started to question myself on whether I had made the right decision. This is because flight crew placarding is not permitted for pneumatics inoperative on APU. But the pneumatics psi was low, not inoperative. I still question myself if I made the right decision or screwed up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: S80 CREW DECIDES TO FLY AN ACFT WITH LOW APU AIR PRESSURE. THEY NOW HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT WHETHER THIS WAS PROPER.
Narrative: AS WE WERE PUSHING BACK, WE WERE CLRED FOR ENG START. AFTER SHUTTING OFF THE PACKS, I FOUND WE ONLY HAD 20 PSI STARTING PRESSURE WHICH IS BELOW THE MINIMUM START PSI. I REQUESTED A START CART AND WE ACCOMPLISHED A NORMAL START OFF THE GATE. I REVIEWED THE MEL AND MADE MY DECISION TO CONTINUE THE FLT. THE APU WAS OPERATING NORMALLY EXCEPT FOR THE LOW PNEUMATIC PSI. WHILE IN CRUISE, I STARTED TO QUESTION MYSELF ON WHETHER I HAD MADE THE RIGHT DECISION. THIS IS BECAUSE FLC PLACARDING IS NOT PERMITTED FOR PNEUMATICS INOP ON APU. BUT THE PNEUMATICS PSI WAS LOW, NOT INOP. I STILL QUESTION MYSELF IF I MADE THE RIGHT DECISION OR SCREWED UP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.