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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 335320 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : 3b4 |
| State Reference | ME |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| ASRS Report | 335320 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was recently going over some approach plates when I noticed something about the eliot, maine, approachs. Apparently the VOR and NDB approachs were originally called VOR-a and NDB-a. There have since been added some GPS overlays, and these approachs are now designated NDB or GPS-a and VOR or GPS-a. It seems we now have two completely different GPS-a approachs at this airport. Prime recipe for confusion. A perusal of the northeast-1 tpp volume shows this to be the only case in this volume, but I suspect it may also have happened elsewhere.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF AN ACR QUESTIONED THE LABELING OF CERTAIN INST APCH CHARTS BECAUSE THEY COULD LEAD TO CONFUSION AND OR MISTAKES SINCE TWO APCH CHARTS ARE LABELED WITH THE SAME GPS-A IDENTIFIER.
Narrative: I WAS RECENTLY GOING OVER SOME APCH PLATES WHEN I NOTICED SOMETHING ABOUT THE ELIOT, MAINE, APCHS. APPARENTLY THE VOR AND NDB APCHS WERE ORIGINALLY CALLED VOR-A AND NDB-A. THERE HAVE SINCE BEEN ADDED SOME GPS OVERLAYS, AND THESE APCHS ARE NOW DESIGNATED NDB OR GPS-A AND VOR OR GPS-A. IT SEEMS WE NOW HAVE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GPS-A APCHS AT THIS ARPT. PRIME RECIPE FOR CONFUSION. A PERUSAL OF THE NE-1 TPP VOLUME SHOWS THIS TO BE THE ONLY CASE IN THIS VOLUME, BUT I SUSPECT IT MAY ALSO HAVE HAPPENED ELSEWHERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.