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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 328766 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199602 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bos |
| State Reference | MA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | other ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 4800 |
| ASRS Report | 328766 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Please find enclosed new company exterior light policy. This is the most ridiculous and blatant reduction in safety during climb/descent operations I've seen yet. It is simply crazy that the FAA would approve this policy for far part 121 airline. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this reporter flies the B727-200 and he reports that none of the pilots that he flies with, including the instructors and check airmen, turn off the navigation or anti- collision lights. The reporter said that the only reason that anyone would turn off the lights while operating was because of bounce-back from clouds or other reflectors. The reporter said that a safety committee was taking this procedure to task.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SO RPTS THAT HE AND OTHER PLTS FEEL THAT A NEW POLICY ON OPERATING THE NAV AND ANTI-COLLISION AND LNDG LIGHTS IS UNSAFE. UNDER THE CURRENT FAR 91 PT 209 THIS NEW POLICY APPEARS TO BE LEGAL EXCEPT POSSIBLY FOR THE ANTI- COLLISION LIGHTS.
Narrative: PLEASE FIND ENCLOSED NEW COMPANY EXTERIOR LIGHT POLICY. THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS AND BLATANT REDUCTION IN SAFETY DURING CLB/DSCNT OPS I'VE SEEN YET. IT IS SIMPLY CRAZY THAT THE FAA WOULD APPROVE THIS POLICY FOR FAR PART 121 AIRLINE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS RPTR FLIES THE B727-200 AND HE RPTS THAT NONE OF THE PLTS THAT HE FLIES WITH, INCLUDING THE INSTRUCTORS AND CHK AIRMEN, TURN OFF THE NAV OR ANTI- COLLISION LIGHTS. THE RPTR SAID THAT THE ONLY REASON THAT ANYONE WOULD TURN OFF THE LIGHTS WHILE OPERATING WAS BECAUSE OF BOUNCE-BACK FROM CLOUDS OR OTHER REFLECTORS. THE RPTR SAID THAT A SAFETY COMMITTEE WAS TAKING THIS PROC TO TASK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.