Another air carrier crew had a problem with the jammn 1 arrival into slc.

Attributes
ACN	328687
Time
Date	199602
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : slc
State Reference	UT
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : slc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 3100
ASRS Report	328687
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Chart Or Publication
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Pilots were flying jammn arrival. I was calling company on communication #2. When I got back, they said ATC told them they may have descended too early. We looked on chart at what they did and it appears they flew arrival properly. This arrival is bad and unsafe. It's hard to read and has too many stepdowns. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter states that so's are not issued the approach plates, only 'see them looking over the pilot's shoulders.' reporter said that a pilot has been threatened with a far violation for leaving an altitude too soon. Reporter is unaware that a revision is in the works. He thought that the page was 'too busy' and that separating the north and south lndgs would simplify the pilot's problems.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ANOTHER ACR CREW HAD A PROB WITH THE JAMMN 1 ARR INTO SLC.

Narrative: PLTS WERE FLYING JAMMN ARR. I WAS CALLING COMPANY ON COM #2. WHEN I GOT BACK, THEY SAID ATC TOLD THEM THEY MAY HAVE DSNDED TOO EARLY. WE LOOKED ON CHART AT WHAT THEY DID AND IT APPEARS THEY FLEW ARR PROPERLY. THIS ARR IS BAD AND UNSAFE. IT'S HARD TO READ AND HAS TOO MANY STEPDOWNS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATES THAT SO'S ARE NOT ISSUED THE APCH PLATES, ONLY 'SEE THEM LOOKING OVER THE PLT'S SHOULDERS.' RPTR SAID THAT A PLT HAS BEEN THREATENED WITH A FAR VIOLATION FOR LEAVING AN ALT TOO SOON. RPTR IS UNAWARE THAT A REVISION IS IN THE WORKS. HE THOUGHT THAT THE PAGE WAS 'TOO BUSY' AND THAT SEPARATING THE N AND S LNDGS WOULD SIMPLIFY THE PLT'S PROBS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.