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Aeronautical publication presentation. First officer of an air carrier complains about the variance between a 3 mi presentation on the SID plate and the 2.9 mi presentation on the engine out procedure.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 321955 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199511 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rno |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 1140 agl bound upper : 1140 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : rno |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4100 flight time type : 1100 |
| ASRS Report | 321955 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The 'mustang 2 departure (FM62.fmg)(pilot navigation)(runway 16L) and (runway 16R)' SID at reno/tahoe international, nv, suggests flying the 164 degree heading well beyond D3 irno localizer because of the way it is drawn. The D3 irno localizer turn point is at least twice as far from the airport symbol as the D2.9 irno localizer turn point for engine inoperative. This pictorial relationship will cause many pilots to miss the turn at D3!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AERO PUBLICATION PRESENTATION. FO OF AN ACR COMPLAINS ABOUT THE VARIANCE BTWN A 3 MI PRESENTATION ON THE SID PLATE AND THE 2.9 MI PRESENTATION ON THE ENG OUT PROC.
Narrative: THE 'MUSTANG 2 DEP (FM62.FMG)(PLT NAV)(RWY 16L) AND (RWY 16R)' SID AT RENO/TAHOE INTL, NV, SUGGESTS FLYING THE 164 DEG HDG WELL BEYOND D3 IRNO LOC BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT IS DRAWN. THE D3 IRNO LOC TURN POINT IS AT LEAST TWICE AS FAR FROM THE ARPT SYMBOL AS THE D2.9 IRNO LOC TURN POINT FOR ENG INOP. THIS PICTORIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL CAUSE MANY PLTS TO MISS THE TURN AT D3!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.