Altitude deviation, crossing restr not met.

Attributes
ACN	315639
Time
Date	199509
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : dpk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zny
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B767-300 and 300 ER
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 228 flight time total : 14500 flight time type : 1246
ASRS Report	315639
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Flight plan called for a (sie camrn 2) STAR to jfk. ATC instructed us to cross camrn at 11000 ft 250 KTS. At 19000 ft, I told captain we would not make restr unless he used speed brake to increase rate of descent. He responded there would be no problem. I informed him I would tell ATC we were unable to comply with restr. ATC responded, 'give us the altitude first and then the airspeed.' we crossed camrn at 13000 ft 290 KTS. We were handed off to approach for a normal continuation of flight to jfk with no comments made to us by ZNY or approach control reference the camrn crossing. The captain's comment to me was that he did not like using the speed brake and thought he would be able to make the restr. In my opinion, the cause for incident was due to fatigue and clouded judgement on captain's part following an all night 11 hour flight from south america. TCASII was working and no other aircraft were involved.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ALTDEV, XING RESTR NOT MET.

Narrative: FLT PLAN CALLED FOR A (SIE CAMRN 2) STAR TO JFK. ATC INSTRUCTED US TO CROSS CAMRN AT 11000 FT 250 KTS. AT 19000 FT, I TOLD CAPT WE WOULD NOT MAKE RESTR UNLESS HE USED SPD BRAKE TO INCREASE RATE OF DSCNT. HE RESPONDED THERE WOULD BE NO PROB. I INFORMED HIM I WOULD TELL ATC WE WERE UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH RESTR. ATC RESPONDED, 'GIVE US THE ALT FIRST AND THEN THE AIRSPD.' WE CROSSED CAMRN AT 13000 FT 290 KTS. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO APCH FOR A NORMAL CONTINUATION OF FLT TO JFK WITH NO COMMENTS MADE TO US BY ZNY OR APCH CTL REF THE CAMRN XING. THE CAPT'S COMMENT TO ME WAS THAT HE DID NOT LIKE USING THE SPD BRAKE AND THOUGHT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THE RESTR. IN MY OPINION, THE CAUSE FOR INCIDENT WAS DUE TO FATIGUE AND CLOUDED JUDGEMENT ON CAPT'S PART FOLLOWING AN ALL NIGHT 11 HR FLT FROM SOUTH AMERICA. TCASII WAS WORKING AND NO OTHER ACFT WERE INVOLVED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.