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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 312836 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199508 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : esn |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2400 msl bound upper : 2400 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1600 flight time type : 1100 |
| ASRS Report | 312836 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 60 flight time type : 60 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Was evaluating student performance of constant altitude turns. Student is 60 hours plus preparing for flight test. After performing a visual check of area and not seeing any traffic, student began a right turn with bank angle of 40-45 degrees. Initial heading was 180 degrees. Approximately 3/4 through the 360 degree turn maneuver, I saw a fast moving object out the window of the pilot's door of the cessna 172. I quickly looked out the front window and saw a cessna citation traveling away toward bwi. I estimate distance of the encounter to have been within 200 ft as, by the time I saw the aircraft out of the front window, it was easily and clearly identifiable as a cessna citation (probably a cii). The conflict aircraft was not observed by either myself or the student after we rolled out of the turn 10-15 seconds later. The visible profile of light jets in a head-on encounter is extremely small. Several recommendations: to CFI: carefully and thoroughly scan the practice area. Emphasize aim 4-93 (F) (1,2,3). To operators of high performance aircraft, turbine pwred aircraft, etc: maintain operations at or above floor of nearby class B and C airspace. Operate in congested areas with extreme caution due to proximity of uncharted VFR training areas. Install and use TCASII. To FAA: require TCASII installation in turbine-pwred equipment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: WAS EVALUATING STUDENT PERFORMANCE OF CONSTANT ALT TURNS. STUDENT IS 60 HRS PLUS PREPARING FOR FLT TEST. AFTER PERFORMING A VISUAL CHK OF AREA AND NOT SEEING ANY TFC, STUDENT BEGAN A R TURN WITH BANK ANGLE OF 40-45 DEGS. INITIAL HDG WAS 180 DEGS. APPROX 3/4 THROUGH THE 360 DEG TURN MANEUVER, I SAW A FAST MOVING OBJECT OUT THE WINDOW OF THE PLT'S DOOR OF THE CESSNA 172. I QUICKLY LOOKED OUT THE FRONT WINDOW AND SAW A CESSNA CITATION TRAVELING AWAY TOWARD BWI. I ESTIMATE DISTANCE OF THE ENCOUNTER TO HAVE BEEN WITHIN 200 FT AS, BY THE TIME I SAW THE ACFT OUT OF THE FRONT WINDOW, IT WAS EASILY AND CLRLY IDENTIFIABLE AS A CESSNA CITATION (PROBABLY A CII). THE CONFLICT ACFT WAS NOT OBSERVED BY EITHER MYSELF OR THE STUDENT AFTER WE ROLLED OUT OF THE TURN 10-15 SECONDS LATER. THE VISIBLE PROFILE OF LIGHT JETS IN A HEAD-ON ENCOUNTER IS EXTREMELY SMALL. SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS: TO CFI: CAREFULLY AND THOROUGHLY SCAN THE PRACTICE AREA. EMPHASIZE AIM 4-93 (F) (1,2,3). TO OPERATORS OF HIGH PERFORMANCE ACFT, TURBINE PWRED ACFT, ETC: MAINTAIN OPS AT OR ABOVE FLOOR OF NEARBY CLASS B AND C AIRSPACE. OPERATE IN CONGESTED AREAS WITH EXTREME CAUTION DUE TO PROX OF UNCHARTED VFR TRAINING AREAS. INSTALL AND USE TCASII. TO FAA: REQUIRE TCASII INSTALLATION IN TURBINE-PWRED EQUIP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.