Air carrier X climbing to 9000 ft received TCASII TA RA from aircraft level at 10000 ft.

Attributes
ACN	295156
Time
Date	199502
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : pdx
State Reference	OR
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 8500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors enroute airway : pdx
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	other : unknown
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 4000
ASRS Report	295156
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 14500 flight time type : 140
ASRS Report	295271
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 1000
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Departing pdx en route jfk, on departure control, on vectors climbing to 9000 ft, had TCASII RA with inbound aircraft descending to 10000 ft. RA at 8500 ft with 1000 FPM rate of climb. Stopped climb and RA conflict cleared. TCASII momentarily called for 2500 FPM rate of descent. Controller should not have vectored us directly at the inbound aircraft. When queried and informed her vector had resulted in a TCASII RA, the controller replied that on this departure 'it happens all the time.' if that is an accurate statement, why doesn't someone do something about the situation? Supplemental information from acn 295271: departure control vectored me to a heading of 035 degrees with an advisory of another aircraft at 10000 ft MSL on downwind leg to pdx on our starboard side. A second descending aircraft appeared on our TCASII 'on the nose' as we completed our turn to 035 degrees, approximately 6 mi out. Passing through approximately 8000 ft, TCASII announced 'traffic, traffic,' followed shortly afterwards at 8500 ft a TCASII RA to descend at 2500 FPM down. Climb rate was arrested to '0' (from about 1000 FPM.) momentarily as this was occurring until passing traffic which went by directly overhead. We considered the vector a poor choice of heading and potentially hazardous and so remarked to departure control.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR X CLBING TO 9000 FT RECEIVED TCASII TA RA FROM ACFT LEVEL AT 10000 FT.

Narrative: DEPARTING PDX ENRTE JFK, ON DEP CTL, ON VECTORS CLBING TO 9000 FT, HAD TCASII RA WITH INBOUND ACFT DSNDING TO 10000 FT. RA AT 8500 FT WITH 1000 FPM RATE OF CLB. STOPPED CLB AND RA CONFLICT CLRED. TCASII MOMENTARILY CALLED FOR 2500 FPM RATE OF DSCNT. CTLR SHOULD NOT HAVE VECTORED US DIRECTLY AT THE INBOUND ACFT. WHEN QUERIED AND INFORMED HER VECTOR HAD RESULTED IN A TCASII RA, THE CTLR REPLIED THAT ON THIS DEP 'IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.' IF THAT IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, WHY DOESN'T SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIT? SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 295271: DEP CTL VECTORED ME TO A HDG OF 035 DEGS WITH AN ADVISORY OF ANOTHER ACFT AT 10000 FT MSL ON DOWNWIND LEG TO PDX ON OUR STARBOARD SIDE. A SECOND DSNDING ACFT APPEARED ON OUR TCASII 'ON THE NOSE' AS WE COMPLETED OUR TURN TO 035 DEGS, APPROX 6 MI OUT. PASSING THROUGH APPROX 8000 FT, TCASII ANNOUNCED 'TFC, TFC,' FOLLOWED SHORTLY AFTERWARDS AT 8500 FT A TCASII RA TO DSND AT 2500 FPM DOWN. CLB RATE WAS ARRESTED TO '0' (FROM ABOUT 1000 FPM.) MOMENTARILY AS THIS WAS OCCURRING UNTIL PASSING TFC WHICH WENT BY DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. WE CONSIDERED THE VECTOR A POOR CHOICE OF HDG AND POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS AND SO REMARKED TO DEP CTL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.