Light transport operated with cargo compartment over gross weight capacity.

Attributes
ACN	291374
Time
Date	199412
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pns
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 6400
ASRS Report	291374
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Aircraft
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We left pns for atl with a full load of 30 passenger and according to the load worksheet given to us by the ramp agent, we had 48 pieces of luggage in the cargo compartment. I had specifically told him and he had acknowledged, that we could carry a maximum of 48 pieces in the cargo compartment (our company uses FAA approved average bag and passenger weights). The flight to atl was uneventful. After parking, one of our agents came up and asked me how many bags the pns people had told us we had. I replied '48,' and he told me that he counted 58 regular bags, 1 duffle bag and 30 pounds of mail. This was over both our maximum cargo weight for that takeoff and over the maximum structural cargo capacity. I had noticed that the pensacola station used a different contract ramp personnel than I last recalled and that they didn't appear as sharp as I previously recalled. With the restructuring by the airlines, you see many more services contracted out, and I question their training and knowledge.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: LTT OPERATED WITH CARGO COMPARTMENT OVER GROSS WT CAPACITY.

Narrative: WE LEFT PNS FOR ATL WITH A FULL LOAD OF 30 PAX AND ACCORDING TO THE LOAD WORKSHEET GIVEN TO US BY THE RAMP AGENT, WE HAD 48 PIECES OF LUGGAGE IN THE CARGO COMPARTMENT. I HAD SPECIFICALLY TOLD HIM AND HE HAD ACKNOWLEDGED, THAT WE COULD CARRY A MAX OF 48 PIECES IN THE CARGO COMPARTMENT (OUR COMPANY USES FAA APPROVED AVERAGE BAG AND PAX WTS). THE FLT TO ATL WAS UNEVENTFUL. AFTER PARKING, ONE OF OUR AGENTS CAME UP AND ASKED ME HOW MANY BAGS THE PNS PEOPLE HAD TOLD US WE HAD. I REPLIED '48,' AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE COUNTED 58 REGULAR BAGS, 1 DUFFLE BAG AND 30 LBS OF MAIL. THIS WAS OVER BOTH OUR MAX CARGO WT FOR THAT TKOF AND OVER THE MAX STRUCTURAL CARGO CAPACITY. I HAD NOTICED THAT THE PENSACOLA STATION USED A DIFFERENT CONTRACT RAMP PERSONNEL THAN I LAST RECALLED AND THAT THEY DIDN'T APPEAR AS SHARP AS I PREVIOUSLY RECALLED. WITH THE RESTRUCTURING BY THE AIRLINES, YOU SEE MANY MORE SVCS CONTRACTED OUT, AND I QUESTION THEIR TRAINING AND KNOWLEDGE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.