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Near midair collision between an medium large transport on short final and an light transport departing from an intersecting runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 291320 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199412 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phl |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 600 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : phl artcc : zse |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 291320 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I was the captain of an FK100 approaching phl. We were cleared to sidestep to land on runway 27L per tower request. Knowing they were using runway 17 also, at about 400 ft AGL as we were about to cross runway 17 centerline, I decided to look right specifically for runway 17 traffic. My experience with conflicts during phl's 'intersecting runway operations' told me to look right. Out the first officer's side window I suddenly saw the front end of a white low-wing twin turbo propeller (300-400 ft at about 2:30 O'clock position, slightly high) commuter type aircraft, before I could react they flew over us and I heard their engine/propeller noise as they passed over us. We were on GS to ILS 27L. I told tower then and they claimed it was all under control. I disagree. The tower supervisor later told me we should have been told that the other aircraft was there, no kidding. I feel that this is an unsafe operation at phl, no matter what parameters are put on it. These 2 aircraft came close to a mid air collision! With the airport lighting, there was no way for us to even see an aircraft to our right even if they had told us about them. This traffic sequencing procedure should be changed -- it is unsafe!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN MLG ON SHORT FINAL AND AN LTT DEPARTING FROM AN INTERSECTING RWY.
Narrative: I WAS THE CAPT OF AN FK100 APCHING PHL. WE WERE CLRED TO SIDESTEP TO LAND ON RWY 27L PER TWR REQUEST. KNOWING THEY WERE USING RWY 17 ALSO, AT ABOUT 400 FT AGL AS WE WERE ABOUT TO CROSS RWY 17 CTRLINE, I DECIDED TO LOOK R SPECIFICALLY FOR RWY 17 TFC. MY EXPERIENCE WITH CONFLICTS DURING PHL'S 'INTERSECTING RWY OPS' TOLD ME TO LOOK R. OUT THE FO'S SIDE WINDOW I SUDDENLY SAW THE FRONT END OF A WHITE LOW-WING TWIN TURBO PROP (300-400 FT AT ABOUT 2:30 O'CLOCK POS, SLIGHTLY HIGH) COMMUTER TYPE ACFT, BEFORE I COULD REACT THEY FLEW OVER US AND I HEARD THEIR ENG/PROP NOISE AS THEY PASSED OVER US. WE WERE ON GS TO ILS 27L. I TOLD TWR THEN AND THEY CLAIMED IT WAS ALL UNDER CTL. I DISAGREE. THE TWR SUPVR LATER TOLD ME WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS THERE, NO KIDDING. I FEEL THAT THIS IS AN UNSAFE OP AT PHL, NO MATTER WHAT PARAMETERS ARE PUT ON IT. THESE 2 ACFT CAME CLOSE TO A MID AIR COLLISION! WITH THE ARPT LIGHTING, THERE WAS NO WAY FOR US TO EVEN SEE AN ACFT TO OUR R EVEN IF THEY HAD TOLD US ABOUT THEM. THIS TFC SEQUENCING PROC SHOULD BE CHANGED -- IT IS UNSAFE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.