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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 265239 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199403 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : atl |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 10 |
| ASRS Report | 265239 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 1000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X inbound to atl descending to 11000 ft had a resolution to climb due to air carrier Y level at 10000 ft. If anybody thinks TCASII is a good idea in class a or B airspace, they have no idea of what they're talking about. The system is dangerous in positive controled airspace. It is only a matter of time before 2 airplanes hit because of it. I will have my copy of this report and several others if I have to go to court.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII LOGIC ACR X TCASII WITH Y. STANDARD SEPARATION EXISTED. EVASIVE ACTION CLB.
Narrative: ACR X INBOUND TO ATL DSNDING TO 11000 FT HAD A RESOLUTION TO CLB DUE TO ACR Y LEVEL AT 10000 FT. IF ANYBODY THINKS TCASII IS A GOOD IDEA IN CLASS A OR B AIRSPACE, THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE SYS IS DANGEROUS IN POSITIVE CTLED AIRSPACE. IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE 2 AIRPLANES HIT BECAUSE OF IT. I WILL HAVE MY COPY OF THIS RPT AND SEVERAL OTHERS IF I HAVE TO GO TO COURT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.