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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 262220 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199401 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cae |
| State Reference | SC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 28400 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 262220 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3400 |
| ASRS Report | 262381 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While leveling off at FL280, a flight attendant came into the cockpit to discuss the cabin temperature with the flight engineer. I turned around to see what the problem was, and as the flight attendant was explaining the situation, I heard the altitude alert sound off. I turned back to the flight instruments and immediately noticed our altitude at 28400 ft and climbing at 500 FPM. I immediately instructed the first officer to descend to FL280, and we did. ATC did not question our altitude at any time. The #1 transponder was placarded 'inoperative' thus rendering our TCASII system 'inoperative' also. I recommend that aircraft altitude alert system 'sound' at 150 ft deviation versus a 300 ft deviation to give the pilot a quicker warning to help avoid altdevs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LGT OVERSHOT ITS ASSIGNED ALT ON CLB.
Narrative: WHILE LEVELING OFF AT FL280, A FLT ATTENDANT CAME INTO THE COCKPIT TO DISCUSS THE CABIN TEMP WITH THE FE. I TURNED AROUND TO SEE WHAT THE PROB WAS, AND AS THE FLT ATTENDANT WAS EXPLAINING THE SIT, I HEARD THE ALT ALERT SOUND OFF. I TURNED BACK TO THE FLT INSTS AND IMMEDIATELY NOTICED OUR ALT AT 28400 FT AND CLBING AT 500 FPM. I IMMEDIATELY INSTRUCTED THE FO TO DSND TO FL280, AND WE DID. ATC DID NOT QUESTION OUR ALT AT ANY TIME. THE #1 XPONDER WAS PLACARDED 'INOP' THUS RENDERING OUR TCASII SYS 'INOP' ALSO. I RECOMMEND THAT ACFT ALT ALERT SYS 'SOUND' AT 150 FT DEV VERSUS A 300 FT DEV TO GIVE THE PLT A QUICKER WARNING TO HELP AVOID ALTDEVS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.